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Offline_JJ_
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First time shroomin.. questions :)
    #547276 - 02/11/02 01:56 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hey everyone.. me and a few friends are heading up to the rainforest for a weekend of camping. I'm wondering if you all think this is a good place to trip.. I thought the beauty of the surroundings would make for a great setting :laugh:
I have some PES Hawaiians that we found on the side of the road (:P) and was wondering whether these would make us lethargic and unable to walk - i.e. should we consume after we reached our camping spot or during the 15km hike? The camping spot isn't in the rainforest.. hence why I want to consume prior to setting up camp.
Also - what type of dosage in -->>wet<<-- grams do you guys recommend for a few first timers? I've done acid a couple of times (low doses, 1 blotter hit).. lots of weed and some salvia extract. Same for my friends.. and there will be two or three people not shrooming to watch over us. The dosage calculator says 17grams fresh for a level 3 trip - that sounds kinda low?
On another point.. are there really differences between the strains of cubies? I hear lots of reports about one being more speedy than another or more dreamy or whatever but I wonder how much this is dependent on set and setting as opposed to the strain. If there are differences then what are the defining characteristics of the PES Hawaiian? :smile:
Thanks!! 


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Re: First time shroomin.. questions :) [Re: _JJ_]
    #547505 - 02/11/02 06:06 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds like an excellent place to trip .
I wouldnt plan on eating the shrooms whilst hiking unless you are near the end or dont mind if you have to stop .
Last time I tripped on shrooms at one point it took the sum of all my energy and might just to roll over a bit so I could try and open my mouth and speak to to my friend - I couldnt stand up let alone hike .

As for dosage - hmmmm dont know :smile:


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Your name [Re: _JJ_]
    #547508 - 02/11/02 06:10 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

BTW I used to belong to a kind of mock religion that praised JJ
JJ was our god I think - cant really remember .

Sounds insane I know but its true - coffee was our holy drink !


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Re: First time shroomin.. questions :) [Re: Food]
    #547612 - 02/11/02 09:44 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hehe.. well I have now come down to earth to feast.. for shrooms are the food of the gods :smile:
mm.. well near the end of the hike then it'll have to be heh. Dosage.. well any idea how much fresh would I have to consume to get somewhere between a level 2 and 3 trip?


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Re: Your name [Re: Food]
    #547620 - 02/11/02 09:57 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Actually I've got another question.. is it possible to extend the trip by redosing every couple of hours or so? So as to have lik a 12 hour trip or something? :smile:


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Re: Your name [Re: _JJ_]
    #547623 - 02/11/02 10:02 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_faq.shtml

I think you should read this links if you haven't already.


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Re: Your name [Re: PsilocyberSpace]
    #547652 - 02/11/02 10:49 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I've already read that but thanks anyway :smile:


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Re: First time shroomin.. questions :) [Re: _JJ_]
    #547701 - 02/11/02 11:46 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Ooops! Don't know what I was thinking!
Please note corrections below and these are for P. Cubensis. If using other varieties consult the calculator....


10(level 2)---------17(level 3) grams provided they are fresh and potent.....


Edited by Tannis (02/12/02 09:56 AM)


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Re: First time shroomin.. questions :) [Re: Tannis]
    #548010 - 02/11/02 04:28 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Tannis, he's asking for fresh weights. you gave him dry.


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Re: Your name [Re: _JJ_]
    #548497 - 02/12/02 02:01 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

JJ, I used to wonder the same thing, and Saturday my friend and I found ourselves with 6/8 to share between us ...

we both started the night off with a half eighth each, and 2-2 1/2 hours into it we both ate some more ... he ate 3/8 more (!!! that is a story in itself ... I would NOT recommend it ... ever ...) and I ate 1/8 or so more, and I tripped hard for another few hours and had a great trip, my friend tripped for about 8 hours till he truly just suddenly turned from a vegetable who didn't know his name into himself within one minute ... that was bizarre ... it's like he just woke up ...

anyway, yes, redosing will work but watch your dosage when you redose ... I'd say double the original dosage and munch them 2 hours later, and you'll have a trip close to the length of acid ...

saturday night when we did the redosing thing, my trip lasted from 8 pm to 4 am the next morning, a good 8 hours from start to finish, and my friend tripped for a few more hours beyond that ...

redosing is great, the next time i do the redosing thing I am going to start off with 3/4 and redose with about and eighth and a half, as that will increase the second peak enough to notice but not too much that it gets to be too much ... perfect trip IMO and though some people may beg to differ, I actually have a better afterglow for a few more days than if I only do one dosing. most people say the more you take the more depressed you get, but I've never encountered this ...

happy trails


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Re: Your name [Re: HB]
    #548535 - 02/12/02 03:10 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks! I'll give this a go:) I'm kinda confused about your last paragraph tho - what do you mean by 3/4 (sorry if this is obvious but I'm from a metric country.. I speak in grams hehe). I know 1/8 is approx 3.5grams but 3/4? Isn't that 21grams? That's a bit high for a dose aint it? Or did you mean fresh weight or... ? *very confused* heh.
Also any tips on fresh weight would be cool thanks! :laugh:


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Re: Your name [Re: _JJ_]
    #548541 - 02/12/02 03:22 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Remember alot of people report that redosing has little effects, most people consider it a failure, I how ever am not one of them, I'm lucky like HB but we seem to be the minority, something to think about tho, you don't want to waste that beginners mind on a half assed trip.

I'd eat 15-20 grams of fresh average shrooms if I was a first timer, its hard to say though, potency and strain are going to play a big role.


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Re: Your name [Re: PsilocyberSpace]
    #548689 - 02/12/02 10:13 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks PsilocyberSpace! The strain's PES Hawaiian. I guess we'll probably do about 17grams each then :laugh: Thanks everyone else who replied too!


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Re: Your name [Re: _JJ_]
    #548724 - 02/12/02 10:54 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

sorry I meant 3/4 of an eighth, not 3/4 ounces ... lol ...


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Re: Your name [Re: _JJ_]
    #548873 - 02/12/02 01:40 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Your welcome and I'm sure we'd all love to read a trip report to see how it turned out!


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Re: Your name [Re: _JJ_]
    #548941 - 02/12/02 02:57 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

JJ: you can redose like on the 4-5 hourpoint of Shrooms or like a few hours after it ended. You can probably do it 5x in a row (about 24 hrs). But after having slept you shouldn't redose: everytime I did that it was less than perfect.
Oh, yeah... After each hit it takes LONGER TO COME ON: don't double the dose or you may dislike it!

P.Cubensis = 0.02-0.18% Psilocybin fresh weight. (mostly 0.04-0.1% if wild...)
Aim for like 15mg & drop the Math Bomb yourself...
Hope to have helped...


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dosage [Re: Asante]
    #549536 - 02/13/02 01:31 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Sure thing Psilo! :smile:

Wiccan_Seeker:
Okay.. so you reckon don't double the dose? Do I increase the second dose at all though?

Also these are cultivated (PES Hawaiian on millet flour pftek style with inner reservoir).. so am I looking at ~ 0.18% potency? I'm just wary of over-doing the trip if ya know what I mean heh. Seeing it's first-time and all.. 


Edited by _JJ_ (02/13/02 01:32 AM)


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Re: dosage [Re: _JJ_]
    #549558 - 02/13/02 01:56 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

JJ

Just be sure to bring a razor blade with you so you can slit your throat if the trip starts going bad.

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Re: dosage [Re: ]
    #549635 - 02/13/02 04:05 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

um.. kay then :smile: reckon that'll pull me out of it? :P


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Re: dosage [Re: _JJ_]
    #549654 - 02/13/02 04:33 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

and make sure you don't throw the stems out, thinking caps are more potent..... :wink:


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