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lochroma fuchsioides, any information?
    #5472515 - 04/02/06 09:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Does anyone have effect/dosing info or experiences with lochroma fuchsioides? All I have been able to find is the fact that it contains tropane alkaloids. Are they the same ones found in datura and other deliriant plants?

edit: Forgot to say I have tried smoking leaves, increasing dosage gradually up to 6, with no effects. I don't remember how many leaves I used in a tea but it didn't work either.


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Re: lochroma fuchsioides, any information? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #5475584 - 04/03/06 05:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

not much is known about this specie and its use

from Hallucinogenic Plants by Richard Evans Shultes:

BORRACHERA (lochroma fuchsioides) is one of about two dozen species of lochroma, all native to the highlands of South America. There are suspicions and unconfirmed reports that several species of lochromo are locally taken in hallucinatory drinks, either alone or mixed with other narcotic plants, by Indians in the Sibundoy Valley of southern Colombia. Although no chemical studies have been made of lochroma, it belongs to the nightshade family, Solanaceae, well recognized for its toxic and hallucinogenic principles.


the plant is called borracllero ("in-toxicant") in Colombia but is most likely used together with the yaje drink there as an admixture.

so thats pretty much what is known about this, but it is a nightshade so yes, it might be closley related to datura spp alkaloid wise. but that doesnt mean it is the same as datura as plants varies in chemicals and this may only have little of the same chemicals as datura or neither, i know there is lochroma spp that is used for its presence of withanolides (same chemicals as found in Withania Somnifera with anti-tumoral effects) so maybe it has some anti cancer properties :smile:


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Re: lochroma fuchsioides, any information? [Re: giz]
    #5475786 - 04/03/06 05:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Here is a picture for anyone who hasn't seen the plant. It can be found in gardens in warm areas.



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Re: lochroma fuchsioides, any information? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #5476509 - 04/03/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I've been thinking. Could taking this with an MAOI produce effects? Ofcourse that would be dangerous so we can only speculate on what that would do.


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Re: lochroma fuchsioides, any information? [Re: Aopocetx]
    #5477889 - 04/04/06 02:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

combining a member of this plant family with maoi is probably a stupid thing to do, perhaps a fatal thing to do.


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