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Offlinemrbenfield
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HPPD question, please answer; could result in bad first trip
    #5472001 - 04/02/06 07:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

ok first off, i am new here. whats up guys.

ok, so i believe i have a minor case of HPPD caused by either marijuana or a small ambien trip. when i look at the ground or the wall for a long time, they wave and ripple, and it looks like the room is spinning. when i look at large objects like chairs or couches, they "breathe". this is only noticable when i purposely look at objects for a long time. is this HPPD, and will trying shrooms this weekend make it worse? i have stopped smoking pot from now on to see if it clears up, but i wont be clean by this weekend, so that is pretty much useless.

to trip, or not to trip, that is the question.

even if shrooms did make it worse, would it go away after a while, and would it be that bad?


thanks guys.


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InvisibleStickyWater
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Re: HPPD question, please answer; could result in bad first trip [Re: mrbenfield]
    #5472019 - 04/02/06 07:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I doubt marijuana would cause it, but well, it's a psychedelic still and I guess that could be a possibility... Either way, I know that some level of visual distortions are normal if you just stare at things, you just never really noticed them because now you're paranoid about having them or you just never noticed them until suddenly it clicked. Either way, HPPD doesn't really seem to be dangerous, it can be a problem when it interferes with your life, but from what I understand those are rare, extreme cases. I'm sure most people on this forum experience HPPD to some extent, it doesn't seem to be rare, but all information seems to suggest that once drug use is stopped it does get better or possibly go away after time... Personally I'd say you're worrying about nothing...


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Re: HPPD question, please answer; could result in bad first trip [Re: StickyWater]
    #5472173 - 04/02/06 08:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Your assemblage point is just a little loose. No big deal


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Re: HPPD question, please answer; could result in bad first trip [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5472193 - 04/02/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

EquilibriuM said:
Your assemblage point is just a little loose. No big deal





haha, what does this mean, and is it drug related?


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Re: HPPD question, please answer; could result in bad first trip [Re: mrbenfield]
    #5472229 - 04/02/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Could be, power plants help you to move your assemblage point. It also moves when you dream. Your assemblage point locks you into frequencies. It is the input to your aura.


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Re: HPPD question, please answer; could result in bad first trip [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5472242 - 04/02/06 08:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The ability to move your assemblage point at will is one sought after by people who desire to move beyond the realm of average men.


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Re: HPPD question, please answer; could result in bad first trip [Re: mrbenfield]
    #5472354 - 04/02/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Read some Castaneda and you will understand....


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"So really, ordinary reality is a kind of chemical habit, sanctioned by culture, which says it's okay to use certain drugs, eat certain foods, and have certain sexual behaviors. However, when you transcend all this pre-conditioning by returning to the original wisdom of the animal body, then you discover this immense dimension of opportunity. For some people, it is a frightening risk. To me, that's the psychedelic experience."
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Re: HPPD question, please answer; could result in bad first trip [Re: VirgilKane]
    #5472450 - 04/02/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I think that stuff happens naturally. Maybe it happens to you more than me, but that kind of thing has happened as long as I can remember. I have gotten some MINOR HPPD where things seemed to inch along even if I wasn't staring at them, but that passed in a couple of months.

I think of it this way, if you don't trip hard enough to get real visuals, they you won't get any sober either. But if you trip hard and do get some phenomena, it usually passes in a couple months.


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Re: HPPD question, please answer; could result in bad first trip [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #5474588 - 04/03/06 01:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

so should i trip or not? pretty much i will trip either way, but without some re-assurance from you guys i think i will worry about it and it will blossom into a bad trip.


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Re: HPPD question, please answer; could result in bad first trip [Re: mrbenfield]
    #5474613 - 04/03/06 01:27 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

dont worry, be happy


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Re: HPPD question, please answer; could result in bad first trip [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5474715 - 04/03/06 02:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

its all good


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Re: HPPD question, please answer; could result in bad first trip [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #5476919 - 04/03/06 10:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I really doubt shrooms will make 'suspected' minor HPPD worse. And if so, the experience could be worth a little visual wiggliness for a few weeks. From experience, I find shrooms don't have that much lingering aftereffects. Personally, I think it's a pretty superficial thing to be worried about unless it is an extreme problem that interferes with your life. HPPD is not a solid reason not to TRY shrooms. I wouldn't go hardcore though.

You may have OTHER reasons not to try them, but if the most of your worries is visual distortion YOU WILL BE FINE. In all liklihood you will have a very enjoyable and thought provoking time.


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2. "We were feeling pretty good so we decided to smoke a few bowls..."
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Re: HPPD question, please answer; could result in bad first trip [Re: mrbenfield]
    #5476975 - 04/03/06 10:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

mrbenfield said:
so should i trip or not? pretty much i will trip either way, but without some re-assurance from you guys i think i will worry about it and it will blossom into a bad trip.




So wait, you come on here asking for advice, and then openly state that you're not even going to listen to that advise? And that you'd be willing to trip even when you think something that's already worrying you sober will turn into a bad trip? By no means should you trip at all dude, you've just proven that you lack both the responsibility and common sense... I'm sorry you had to find out this way, but there's harsher ways of learning...


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Re: HPPD question, please answer; could result in bad first trip [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #5476977 - 04/03/06 10:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Nothing to worry about I would say. I saw stuff like that a lot before I ever tried any psychedelic compound...and now I get it more. It's not bad though. Like you said happens to you, I have to focus on seeing it to see it. it doesn't interefere with my life at all. Just when I'm going to sleep, sometimes i'll open my eyes and the woodgrain on my walls will be swimming and stuff, then I'll blink and they'll be normal.


I'd say you'll be fine most likely if all you have to worry about is a little residual visual activity. The only thing that ever gave me any of that was 2C-I, and it went away a few days later.


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