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time2
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I can see letting your dog do MJ but shrooms that would suck to be that dog lol.
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Lion
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: blink]
#5470965 - 04/02/06 02:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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blinkidiot said: Would you dose a child in your care? if not, then don't do that to your family member.
actually, back in the 60s, some psychiatrists experimented with giving "problem children" LSD to help them work through their behavioral problems. many of these treatments, some done on children as young as 5, had great results and none had overwhelmingly negative results.
but then, this guy probably isn't a knowledgeable psychiatrist 
the one time I was tripping and a dog was present, I got really bad vibes. I felt like its natural stream of consciousness had been diluted by its interactions with humans, and i could see anguish and spiritual famine in its eyes
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: Lion]
#5471127 - 04/02/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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there are also indigenous tribes that give children psychadelics as part of religious ceremonies, and the like
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: Lion]
#5471197 - 04/02/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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blinkidiot said: Would you dose a child in your care? if not, then don't do that to your family member.
actually, back in the 60s, some psychiatrists experimented with giving "problem children" LSD to help them work through their behavioral problems.
haha giving ablert hoffmans problem child to problemed children
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: leafing]
#5471246 - 04/02/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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When they gave those "problem children" LSD and psilocybin...those kids were in horrible shape and this was almost a last resort. These kids also either had autism or schizophrenia. On top of that, they were all given extremely low doses and monitered by psychiatrists who guided the trips. If you think you can do the same thing with a dog, you're not thinking straight.
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shymanta
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: gdman]
#5471254 - 04/02/06 04:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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don't get me wrong, it's fun to take drugs and play with and chill with your dog, but don't give it something it can't posibly understand.
I can't speak for dude's dog, but I saw two dogs eat a whole patch of p. Azurescens colonized wood chips. They both had huge grins on the faces. I think they understand as much as we do about these things.
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: shymanta]
#5471303 - 04/02/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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maybe psilocin on dogs acts diffrent on the brain on humans, maybe it doesnt act as a pscycadelic at all. i dont know, i know nothing about a dogs brain.
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: giz]
#5471394 - 04/02/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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My little dachschund (weiner dog) has a voracious appetite and will eat all day...
I was eating mushrooms once and it was begging me for some... so I took the tiniest piece and placed it in front of her nose and she declined... which is very rare.
I was curious if psilocybin/psilocin was really just a defense mechanism of the mushrooms... I suppose it is for dachschunds.
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: shymanta]
#5471399 - 04/02/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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shymanta said:
I can't speak for dude's dog, but I saw two dogs eat a whole patch of p. Azurescens colonized wood chips. They both had huge grins on the faces. I think they understand as much as we do about these things.
I'm very curious what a dog looks like when it "grins."
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: Herbus]
#5471429 - 04/02/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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shymanta said:
I can't speak for dude's dog, but I saw two dogs eat a whole patch of p. Azurescens colonized wood chips. They both had huge grins on the faces. I think they understand as much as we do about these things.
I'm very curious what a dog looks like when it "grins."
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: giz]
#5471515 - 04/02/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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lol good image. anyways dont feed your dog shrooms he wouldnt understand why he was tripping or even that it was a trip. it could cause emotional damage. i do say hoever that if you got a nice grassy yard you should get shroomed out and go roll around in the grass with your dog, im sure he will have a great time and you might to. just try not to let the shrooms convince you that your a dog or some other bizarr animal.
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: lga0302]
#5471543 - 04/02/06 05:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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A possible scenario:
Imagine your dog freaking out beyond belief, running around, barking and biting. You'd have to jump him with a blanket and roll him in like a mummy, still barking and snarling until the vet comes with a tranq shot to calm him down. Not so cool is it?
Dogs can never give consent to a psychedelic experience, and as a result will be prone to be very scared and confused. We can discern that it probably is all in the head, but for a dog all the weirdness may seem as real as anything. He might play around a bit or come out as a stressed dog ever after.
Don't do that. at most he'll have strange fun, at its worst he has to be put down for attacking everything that moves. The negatives far outweigh the positives.
Remember that superficial behavior and cognition patterns are easiest to lose track off in a psychedelic experience. For a dog this is the acquired behavior of socialisation with humans.
You take the shrooms and have a good time on a meadow somewhere, he'll love to see you go nutsy or he'll find it awkward, but nothing as extreme as he would feel or do on mushrooms.
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: Asante]
#5471551 - 04/02/06 05:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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that is somewhat the scenario i was thinkin about when i read this post. but will psycadelics make a dog trip. do they have serotin receptors or maybe they have some other chemicals in their brain, i dont have the first clue tho. just wondering
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: giz]
#5471564 - 04/02/06 05:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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You bet dogs will trip, in the sense of derive similar effects. Cats do, mice do, even spiders are affected.
Psychedelics in high doses basically unhinge proper functioning of the mind.  To a human this can be interesting or even fun, because we can part with the survival mode (instincts, limbic system) while a dog basically *lives* there. Even humans given LSD without consent and supervision are at substantial risk of coming away with a psychological disorder, often PTSD, just like war vets who "saw too much".
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: Asante]
#5471661 - 04/02/06 06:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: You bet dogs will trip, in the sense of derive similar effects. Cats do, mice do, even spiders are affected.
Psychedelics in high doses basically unhinge proper functioning of the mind.  To a human this can be interesting or even fun, because we can part with the survival mode (instincts, limbic system) while a dog basically *lives* there. Even humans given LSD without consent and supervision are at substantial risk of coming away with a psychological disorder, often PTSD, just like war vets who "saw too much".
My father was slipped some acid in his drink when he was in college. His head got pretty messed up. But it did help in certain aspects.. He quit smoking cigs, pot, drinking, and any other drug.
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: Herbus]
#5472040 - 04/02/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Herbus,
Dogs have a definite smile. Google "dog smile". I guess its from living with humans for so long. The dogs I mentioned earlier also had "the vibe". I was kinda pissed that the azure patch got dug up but seeing two grinning k-9's was good for a laugh.
BTW I'm not saying to dose your dog. But if they find it and eat it, they probably know what's up. If someone feeds it to them they probably won't know what the hell is happening.
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: lga0302]
#5472094 - 04/02/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Tripping with animals is awesome
Case in point
I thought my friend's fish was hitting me
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: shymanta]
#5472096 - 04/02/06 08:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ya I can definitely tell when my dog is happy and it is kind of a smile.
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: Wysefool]
#5472351 - 04/02/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i'm not lying at all but everytime someone would come home my friends dalmation would seriously smile and show its teeth, it wasnt a human smile like this ( ) but it would show its teeth i dunno how it would do it or how to explain it. but i saw her do it a few times i thought it was so cool. this was back when i was in the 7th grade. that dog lived til she was 14 and i think it was the coolest dogs ever.
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Re: TRIPPING WITH MY DOG [Re: lga0302]
#5472434 - 04/02/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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heck ya trippin with animals is definatly great as long as you keep your cool there gona be down to have fun with you. wether or not they know your tripping any animal is goin to apreciat someone haveing a good time with them. when i get the space im totaly geting some more animals. i used to live in a practical zoo i miss it but i do think i went overboard. i had 1 gunea pig, 6 gerbils, about 20 tropical fish, 4 cichlids, a rabbit, a dog, 2 cats, and an iguana to much to care for realy. anyways just kick back and have fun. if your worried about being lonely play with your dog im sure he will apreciate it.
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