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 MokshaMan
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 Re: The Clinton Legacy is 9/11/01.  [Re: nugsarenice]
#551370 - 02/14/02 02:21 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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"After we removed spanish rule, we instituted our own government, in which american companies came in and bought up cuba. 70% of all cuba's farmland was owned by United Fruit, an american company."
Then why is it that nearly every source I read about Cuba before the revolutions claim that 62% of the sugar mills were controlled by Cubans, which you yourself stated is the most important economic indicator. And if the Americans were so controling in the country then why did only 14% of the investments come from the US?
"While about all of cuba's lower class was living in huts, without hospitols, schools, and a very low life expectancy rate."
If these people were that awful off, then why did it have the lowest infant mortality rate in Latin America? And in fact the 13th lowest in the world? It's fallen off since Castro has come to power and is only the 24th best in the world. While this is still excellent, these people were still being taken care of. In fact they were 22nd in the world comparing number of doctors to the population. Also if everything was that awful, why on earth did it have a lower mortality rate than the US or Canada(Cuban mortality rate was 5.8, while the US had a 9.6 and Canada had a 7.6). The life expectancy has improved since Castro has come to power, but it has improved almost everywhere. Castro was smart enough to take something that was working and make it better. While we should commend him for that, it has gotten better throughout most of the Americas and comparitively he's not ahead of anyone. In fact they've been loosing ground since he came to power in many things. And if the schools were that horrible why were over 76% of the people able to read in 1958(and might I add they had the highest number of newspapers printed in Latin America). If you look at a comparison of literacy(one of the things that we can compare) between say, Brazil(which has a greater number of people) and Cuba there was only a 20% improvement while in Brazil there was a 34% improvement. Cuba had a base on which to build already in place. This is the same with industrialization, while it was not 100% it had started soon after the first Batista revolution and Castro simply took something that worked and continued it.
"Remember their were alot of "Mulattos" half black half cuban, and alot of blacks"
While I can't find numbers for 1958. The current numbers that I've come across stand as such: 51% mulattos, 11% black, 37% white, 1% other. If there were so many blacks where did they go? Why is it the whites are the second largest group?
"an equal currency to the u.s. now."
Don't forget that this was true in 1950 as well, makes you wonder what would have happened if Batista hadn't taken the reigns of power a second time and then been overthrown by Castro. If you want to argue this point further, I suggest that we create a new thread as we have gone way off the topic of the orginal post.
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Edited by MokshaMan (02/14/02 03:03 PM)
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 Ellis Dee
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Re: The Clinton Legacy is 9/11/01. [Re: MokshaMan]
#551382 - 02/14/02 02:34 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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"Then why is it that nearly every source I read about Cuba before the revolutions claim that 62% of the sugar mills, which you yourself stated is the most important economic indicator. And if the Americans were so controling in the country then why did only 14% of the investments come from the US?"
Perhaps the investment were concentrated in farmlands. 14% of investment in an entire country could be 70% of the farmland and a bit of other holdings.
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MokshaMan
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Re: The Clinton Legacy is 9/11/01. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#551428 - 02/14/02 03:05 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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True, this is a possiblity. And for some odd reason I screwed up the first sentence that was in this quote, it has been corrected in the orginal post.
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Re: The Clinton Legacy is 9/11/01. [Re: MokshaMan]
#551442 - 02/14/02 03:14 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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The cubans who owned the mills were probraly cuban. Of long descent of american and spanish marriage of the aristocracy there. And these wealthy cubans were probraly taking loans from the same bank that funded United Fruit.
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Re: The Clinton Legacy is 9/11/01. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#551817 - 02/14/02 08:28 PM (22 years, 2 months ago) |
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under Bush, the CIA funded guys like saddam hussein and noriega.....
this is common knowledge..........Bush's cia was all about putting in puppets and taking them out when they got too much control.
If any one person in america is responsible for the 9-11, it is Bush Sr, the nazi fuck. I have little doubt that his son will bring about the end of the world as we know it.....the stupid fuck.
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