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Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all
    #5464661 - 03/31/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hey guys,

Me and a friend ate 7 HBWR seeds each and nothing happened at all. I mean, there were literally no effects whatsoever. It was 4 hours ago that we ate them. Is there some special way to eat them or are we just very tolerant to them? We just chewed 'em up for a while as they were. We tripped on mushrooms a week ago, but I doubt that would have anything to do with it.

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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: TurricaN]
    #5464665 - 03/31/06 04:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hmmm even if you got weak ones you should have noticed something on 7. Did you get them from a reliable source?


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: barfightlard]
    #5464678 - 03/31/06 04:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

did they have the fuzzy coating on the outside?? ... I have gotten hbwr seeds from india and they were some different strain that didnt have the fuzz on them ... I ended up eating quite a few and I didn't feel nothin


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: benrules92]
    #5464696 - 03/31/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

From now on people, just dont get the ghana strain, get the most expensive strain. It should be well worth it.

I, like benrules92 have heard that the strains from india also contain little or no alkaloids.

If you dont feel anything after eating 7 of them, you either have some really messy expectations of hallucinogens, or you just got some really shitty HBWR seeds.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: benrules92]
    #5464710 - 03/31/06 04:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The lower quality strains (guana & Indian) usually require at least 10 (sometimes 15) seeds before effects become noticeable.
LSA is very subtle mentally, and the first effects you will notice will probably be the visuals (contrary to most other psychedelics). The trip is surprisingly clear-headed, almost to the point of sobriety, but still very philosophical.
Basically, you probably just didn't notice the effects because you had no visuals, and felt sober mentally. If you had tried contemplating or meditating, you might have realized that something had indeed happened.

If you ordered the Hawaiian ("potent") strain, then your seeds were either very old, or you were ripped off.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: stemmer]
    #5464713 - 03/31/06 04:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The site says that they are Argyreia nervosa seeds. It was http://www.redeyefrog.co.uk/Baby_Hawaiian_Woodrose_Seeds.html

Well, I read somewhere that it's best to remove the outside 'shell' bit to reduce nausea. It seemed like most of the seed was shell with only a small bit in the middle. Is that normal? That could be where we went wrong.

Anyways, I have 13 seeds left. I'm thinking I'll eat the lot at some point and see what I get.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: TurricaN]
    #5464727 - 03/31/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Good Idea, cause if you didnt feel 7 seeds one bit............

Seems at first glance to be a shitty supplier.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: stemmer]
    #5464737 - 03/31/06 04:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well, I've bought Salvia from that site before and that was good. What leads you to believe that they're a shitty supplier?

I wasn't really anticipating anything visually, I normally don't get much in the way of visuals on anything, not even on mushrooms or salvia.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: TurricaN]
    #5464744 - 03/31/06 04:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

They are not well known, I didnt look closely but it seems they only had one type of seed, and their presentation is kinda lame.

Also, its hard to find shitty salvia and salvia extracts. They would have to go out of their way for it to not work at all


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: stemmer]
    #5464770 - 03/31/06 05:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I like the presentation. I'd much rather have simple W3C HTML compliant sites than sites full of Flash, Java-Script and broken proprietary HTML extensions that many sites today seem to use.

But apart from that, I don't actually even know of any other sites in the UK that sell the seeds. Do you have any reccomendations?


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: TurricaN]
    #5464876 - 03/31/06 05:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I know nothing about their seeds, and the lack of flash has little to do with why I wouldnt buy from them when it comes to HBWR.

I only deal with that stuff within the US. A good sign would be if they have more than 2 types of seeds. The 3-4th more expensive strains are the ones you should buy. They are always relatively cheap, so go with the best(they are the grosser looking of the HBWR variety). When there are different prices and different types, they know why they are making you pay more for some of them. That would mean they have a few sources and know what they are doing when it comes to the price.
If the best are called "hawaiians" and there are several other cheaper alternatives, Id go with the hawaiians. Its not that they consider that to be a cool name for the most expensive variety of HBWR. Its just that some of the best seeds and growing conditions are in hawaii. Thats all I have ever used, and it was from one site with 4 alternative types. They were quite psychedelic at about 5 seeds+ ...


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: stemmer]
    #5465408 - 03/31/06 08:22 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You can turn HBWR seeds into some of the most potent LSD around. You need to extract the LSA, and then you can synthesize it into LSD. What you get when you do that, is "Silver" acid, as opposed to "white" which is made from Aragot, "that what Albert Hoffman made it from". At least that what we call it here. I live in Hawaii, and yes HBWR grows like wild fire. Pure LSD synthesized from the LSA is totally wicked, its so psychedelic! I know it sounds like advanced chemistry, and I guess is, but Worth learning and looking into.
But HBWR seeds is just one of the many perks of living in Hawaii, the Ayahuasca great too! :biggrin:


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: PsilocybeSamurai]
    #5465537 - 03/31/06 08:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

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You can turn HBWR seeds into some of the most potent LSD around. You need to extract the LSA, and then you can synthesize it into LSD. What you get when you do that, is "Silver" acid, as opposed to "white" which is made from Aragot, "that what Albert Hoffman made it from".




dude what?!?!?

i dont even know where to start with this reply.... :confused:


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: PsilocybeSamurai]
    #5467939 - 04/01/06 03:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

PsilocybeSamurai said:
You can turn HBWR seeds into some of the most potent LSD around. You need to extract the LSA, and then you can synthesize it into LSD. What you get when you do that, is "Silver" acid, as opposed to "white" which is made from Aragot, "that what Albert Hoffman made it from". At least that what we call it here. I live in Hawaii, and yes HBWR grows like wild fire. Pure LSD synthesized from the LSA is totally wicked, its so psychedelic! I know it sounds like advanced chemistry, and I guess is, but Worth learning and looking into.
But HBWR seeds is just one of the many perks of living in Hawaii, the Ayahuasca great too! :biggrin:




Oh my, where do you get this stuff from?
first, LSD is LSD no matter where it comes from. Second, it is more difficult to synthesize LSD from extracted LSA than to simply start from scratch. Finally, Albert Hofmann used Ergot alkaloids, not Aragot.

Hope that clears some things up.  :wink: :thumbup:


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #5467989 - 04/01/06 03:55 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

There are damn good reasons that some lsd is considered to be more "pure". I suggest you read up on that if you disagree, and this time look to the right places for that information.

The whole "all lsd is the best lsd thing" just gets really old. Spare me the comments about RC's.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: stemmer]
    #5468133 - 04/01/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

LSA visuals


LSD visuals


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: stemmer]
    #5468143 - 04/01/06 04:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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There are damn good reasons that some lsd is considered to be more "pure". I suggest you read up on that if you disagree, and this time look to the right places for that information.

The whole "all lsd is the best lsd thing" just gets really old. Spare me the comments about RC's.




You misunderstood.
Obviously, the purity of LSD changes the potency, but pure 100% LSD is, in fact, Pure 100% LSD no matter where it comes from.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #5468183 - 04/01/06 04:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I do see what you meant. I was just jumping the gun. I was just not sure If you knew that and I had only skimmed through what PsilocybeSamurai was saying.

I guess I feel what you said goes without saying, so I looked too far into it without thoroughly reading PsilocybeSamurai's post.


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: stemmer]
    #5550134 - 04/24/06 03:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

When i tried HBW i just chewed up 7 and washed them down with coke, my friend ended up taking 25 in the same way and experienced nothing. The next day he woke up with a red rash on his face and was aching all over (went away the following day).


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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds did nothing at all [Re: psytim1987]
    #5550725 - 04/24/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I just ordered some seedes from Iamshaman.com 17.44 for fiffty seeds from hawawi said they had a 95% germination rate. do you guys think these seeds will be good. www.Iamshaman.com they had alot of diffrent kinds and I got the most expensive. what do you guys think I am really sensitive to pschedelics and notice really sutble effects. to me the sutblty is what makes the whole so intense. doesage questions I guess I weigh about 125lbs and am like six feet or somthing. any one ever combine with lsd, mushrooms, 2ci, salvia or nitrous? just curious. it seems to me that the lsa would really boost the lsd in the same genralle direction. oh and is it best to just crunch the seeds alittle bit or what. I have herd that you dont want to really grind the shells to much for nausesa and somthing that makes that lsa less effective is this true?


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