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Religion vs Psychadelics
    #5463680 - 03/31/06 12:00 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

My best friend Sarah from high school called me the other day and dropped the uber bomb on me. Now before I even go into it I'd like to briefly describe my friendship with her. We met in 9th grade and we bonded instantly since then we've had a long healthy friendship. I can honestly say that in the past 6 years we have no gotten into one argument not one conflict, not one tiff. things were SMOOTH sailing with her. She's a devout Christian but has never passed judgment on my druggie hippie sort of life. Which is prolly one of the most unique things about our friendship. That we both had like these different passions and lives and whatnot but we were able to still be as close as we are.

So she called tells me that she was praying for her friends and whatnot she started praying for me and god had a message to give me. He told her to tell me that he loved me and that he cares for me so much and that i don't even know...

then she starts talking about how i shouldn't be doing drugs and that for the last four years every time she told me that she didn't mind me smoking pot or doing any drugs, she was lying and that it does bother her and that she doesn't want to be around it anymore
she says she thinks drugs eat up my money and my time and my brain and that I'd be happier following in god.

what i said it pretty much boiled down to A) i really don't appreciate the fact that she hasn't been honest with me especially because i didn't once necessarily expect her to come out right and tell me "don't do that Ani." but i asked her every time i smoked around her or did anything if she would mind and she's always said no in fact she often told me that she liked the smell of pot and almost enjoyed when i smoked around her.

and B) that i didn't believe in god or Christianity and i prolly never will and that's just something she has to know. i told her that we both have different ways to seek self revelation and what not and that what i loved so much about our friendship was that we could come to each other and talk to each other about it.despite our differences we were able to respect and love each other. i told her that's what i loved so much about our friendship and that i really don't want it to stop. i told her i love when she talks to me about god and her experiences with them but just how she doesn't understand me quest with psychedelics i don't understand her quest with god, and instead of being against each other we need to love and embrace our differences cause i love her to death.


So now I'm worried this is going to put an awful strain on our friendship. i told her i wouldn't smoke pot around her anymore and she said she appreciates that. she basically doesn't want to hang out with me while I'm doing those things. Which truly sucks because it limits the things we could do together.

I really felt like we were beyond all that. I can't help but feel mis-led. I just hope this doesn't drastically change anything.

What do you guys think of all this?


Edited by AniNator (03/31/06 12:05 PM)


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Re: Religion vs Psychadelics [Re: Aninator]
    #5463715 - 03/31/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Nothin' to really comment on it. You gotta respect her requests, and she has to respect yours. If either party fails to do so, a healthy relationship can't exist.


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Re: Religion vs Psychadelics [Re: Aninator]
    #5463728 - 03/31/06 12:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well, some consideration on your part could go a long way. But remember, you are dealing with religion. Organized religion. And most people who are "religious" try to put thier beliefs onto everyone else, with the fear of "going to hell" if you don't subscribe to their way of thinking. To each his own, but don't lay your trip on me.
I would suggest that you guys sit down and talk about it. But the bottom line is this: People need to accept each other for who they are. If not, then true friendship is not possible.
We are talking about a belief system, so there is no right or wrong.
Thou shalt not judge!!
Peace ang good luck!!


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Re: Religion vs Psychadelics [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5463749 - 03/31/06 12:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Both valid points and i completely agree.
i'm gonna be respectful and considerate. I totally agree with that an dreally have no problem with it when it comes to just me and her and when it's a matter of me doing shit in front of her.

but we can't necessarily go out if somewhere with my other friends because i have friends that do smoke pot and to think that she won't hang out with us cuase we'd be smoking is kind of ridiculous to me. although i understand her point of view you can't just distance yourself like that from it. I mean she's gonna miss out.


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Re: Religion vs Psychadelics [Re: Aninator]
    #5463756 - 03/31/06 12:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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AniNator said:
but we can't necessarily go out if somewhere with my other friends because i have friends that do smoke pot and to think that she won't hang out with us cuase we'd be smoking is kind of ridiculous to me. although i understand her point of view you can't just distance yourself like that from it. I mean she's gonna miss out.




Yeah, I mean we've talked about this a lot in IM's already today but it sucks because we're talking about a spiritual belief and a physical act. And she's being intolerant because she just "doesn't want to be around it." But when you hang out around her, is she not being actively pious? Even if it's all inside her mind? No reason that one should be more acceptable to be around than the other.

She went for years being around you while you smoked I don't understand why now it's so offensive.


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Re: Religion vs Psychadelics [Re: Aninator]
    #5464842 - 03/31/06 05:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i dunno if it's offensive.. i just don't think she wants it around her.


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Re: Religion vs Psychadelics [Re: Aninator]
    #5464864 - 03/31/06 05:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Hi Ani :smile:

It sounds like you handled the situation perfectly, especially caught off guard like you were.  All you can do is respect her wishes and not do that stuff around her.  But she also has to respect the fact that you're making your choices, just as she is making hers, and not chide you about smoking pot or whatever else you want to do.  She's spoken her piece and I hope she leaves it at that going forward. 

Also, I see why you would be upset at her not bringing it up until now and "misleading" you.  I can also see why she may have not said anything - maybe she didn't want to make things awkward, but now realized that being upfront is the best policy?  Or maybe it didn't bother her AS much up until now? 

I hope your friendship gets through this.  Think of things the 2 of you can do in advance so that you both enjoy the time that you spend together  :heart:


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Re: Religion vs Psychadelics [Re: Liz]
    #5464962 - 03/31/06 05:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for that great advice. Yea i hope we get through this and i think we will. cause i love her and i can't imagine not having her in my life you know? or growing apart.

Part of the reason that she was so hesitent i guess about telling me was that she saw how i reacted to other friends when they were negative about my smoking pot and she didn't want the same thing to happen to our friendship. which is understandable but she's so different and our friendship is so different that she really shouldn't have had that fear. who's to say how she SHOULD be feeling. but i felt like our friendhsip was far too strong and special for her to really feel like that would happen to us too.

I'm seeing her sunday for her birthday. it should be fun.


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