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North Spore Shop: Boomr Bag, Bulk Substrate

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OfflineAkira
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adding nitrogen to substrate
    #5463220 - 03/31/06 09:10 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i recently bought a bag of blood meal at home depot, ihad a choice between the blood meal, bone meal, and worm castings. The worm castings was 1% nitrogen, the bone meal was 6% nitrogen while the blood meal was 12 % nitrogen (it says water soluble) . Im assuming the more nitrogen the better, is this correct.

Once i do use the blood meal i will be adding it to a 50/50, H-po/coco core substrate. What ratio is the ratio of the blood meal that i should add to the h-po/coco core.

Another Question> do i add the blood meal to the substrate before or after pasturization?


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Re: adding nitrogen to substrate [Re: Akira]
    #5463345 - 03/31/06 10:03 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

my understanding is that poo already has a good amount of nitrogen, so you don't want to add anything to it.

too much nitrogen can cause bad results. maybe add a very small amount if anything. do a search and find what the optimal nitrogen % is, it's pretty low.

personally, id just use your poo/coir as is.


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Re: adding nitrogen to substrate [Re: AKtoker]
    #5463484 - 03/31/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

What has led you to the conclusion that the chief limiting factor in your setup is access to free N? Is it possible that attention to a different limiting factor would have more direct implications to your overall success?


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Re: adding nitrogen to substrate [Re: Teon]
    #5463707 - 03/31/06 12:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I have not had any problems with the conditions in my FC, they are all optimal. Nitrogen is used to increase the potency of M, therefor that is why i choose to use nitrogen for better results.

Can anyone with experience using nitrogen as a source for increasing potency answer my original question:is 12 % nitrogen too much and if not what is the ratio i should add to the 50/50 substrate?


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Re: adding nitrogen to substrate [Re: Akira]
    #5463760 - 03/31/06 12:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You want the N to be in the 2.7 range.
Any more, will not help & may cause harm.


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Re: adding nitrogen to substrate [Re: agar]
    #5463819 - 03/31/06 12:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i already added a bit of bloodmeal to some poo that is out drying right now. i dunno how it will affect them... ill find out soon enough though.


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Re: adding nitrogen to substrate [Re: agar]
    #5464308 - 03/31/06 02:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Agar,

I read in one of your posts that adding seaweed during the hydration stage of horse poo would increase potency. Maxicrop is a product derived from seweed, would adding a bit of this increase potency?


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Re: adding nitrogen to substrate [Re: BlueBruiser]
    #5464396 - 03/31/06 02:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Kelp meal adds micro/macro/trace elements.
If all else is optimal, this just makes it more-so.


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Re: adding nitrogen to substrate [Re: agar]
    #5464482 - 03/31/06 03:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Agar, is 3% too much?


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