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Quakes Rock Iran
    #5462908 - 03/31/06 06:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Does anyone here think that the United States should give aid AGAIN for earthquakes?

Mar 31, 7:42 AM EST

Three Quakes in Iran Kill at Least 66

By ALI AKBAR DAREINI
Associated Press Writer


AP Photo/VAHID SALEMI



TEHRAN, Iran (AP) -- Three strong earthquakes and several aftershocks reduced villages to rubble in western Iran early Friday, killing at least 66 people and injuring about 1,200 others, officials said.

At least 13 tremors jolted the mountainous region throughout the night, Tehran University's Geophysics Institute said.

The U.S. Geological Survey reported a 5.7 magnitude quake shortly before 5 a.m. local time., followed by a 4.7 magnitude aftershock about 15 minutes later. The area had been hit by a 4.7-magnitude quake the day before, according to the USGS, which monitors earthquakes around the world.

The quakes were centered near Boroujerd and Doroud, two industrial cities about 210 miles southwest of Tehran, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.




The regional head of emergency response, Ali Barani, said about 200 villages were damaged, some flattened. Barani said hospitals in Doroud and Boroujerd were full to their capacity.

State-run television said a total of 66 bodies had been recovered from houses destroyed in Silakhor, a region north of Doroud. The broadcast said 1,200 people were injured.

Most people had been sleeping. They ran into the streets in panic and refused to return to their homes.

"We are afraid to get back home. I spent the night with my family and guests in open space last night," Doroud resident Mahmoud Chaharmiri told The Associated Press by telephone.

British foreign secretary Jack Straw says Britain is sending its condolences to the Iranians after the earthquake.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5463305 - 03/31/06 09:48 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

allah sent this quake upon them for not being islamic enough. they must take a harder stance against the infidels.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5463406 - 03/31/06 10:25 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Does anyone here think that the United States should give aid AGAIN for earthquakes?


It would be money better spent than the invasion of Iraq wouldn't it?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5463480 - 03/31/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Alex213 Stated:

It would be money better spent than the invasion of Iraq wouldn't it?



No it wouldn't. At least in Iraq we have eliminated allot of rape camps and dungeons, amongst other things. For you to suggest that the USA give more money to a county that has denied the Holocaust, sponsors terrorism, and is stuck in the 13th century, is completely ignorant. Dont let your anti war bias confuse you on giving money to a country that cant even make friends in Europe.

Heres an idea..........Why doesn't any of the Middle Eastern Countries help out?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5463496 - 03/31/06 10:59 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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SirTripAlot said:
Alex213 Stated:

Heres an idea..........Why doesn't any of the Middle Eastern Countries help out?




Youd have to look long and hard to find out if they actually did.  Your media doesn't like to boast the deeds of others countries.  Because america always has to pat itself on the back :bendoverrover:


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5464051 - 03/31/06 01:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

At least in Iraq we have eliminated allot of rape camps and dungeons, amongst other things

Have you really? With police death squads roaming the streets and even the ex-prime minister saying human rights are now worse than under Saddam I'd have to question that.

For you to suggest that the USA give more money to a county that has denied the Holocaust, sponsors terrorism, and is stuck in the 13th century, is completely ignorant

The people laying under the rubble havn't said that.

is completely ignorant

Nowhere near as ignorant as writing off every Iranian because of what their leader says. There's a massive Iranian ecstasy scene - do you want all of those kids to die too? Try and see beyond the media propaganda about a country. They're just people like you and me.

Why doesn't any of the Middle Eastern Countries help out?

Probably because they're run by vicious US backed dictatorships who'se only interest is making themselves massively richer and torturing their own people. Like those murdering peices of shit the US installed back in power in Kuwait.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: barfightlard]
    #5464083 - 03/31/06 01:35 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Your country Canada , is such a power house!!!!

I must back off!!!

You want to back your shit up?

Lets do a comparison on how much aid the USA has given Iran compared to the rest of the Middle East.

Point in fact, how much aid did Canada give in last quake that killed 20,000 Iranians?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5464618 - 03/31/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.its.caltech.edu/~kai/foreignaid.html

Did I say Canada was a power house?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: barfightlard]
    #5464700 - 03/31/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Alex213 stated:
Have you really? With police death squads roaming the streets and even the ex-prime minister saying human rights are now worse than under Saddam I'd have to question that.


Yeah, really we have. Have you been to Iraq? Or do you get your information through a feeding tube? I have been there and have seen definite progress. The knowledge of the untested is soooooo vast.

For you to believe an ex prime minister coming from Saddam's regime really shows how stupid your viewpoint is.


Alex213 Stated: Probably because they're run by vicious US backed dictatorships

Ahh yes of course.....the Middle east is in ruin because of the evil USA. Were you issued a rubber stamp for that argument?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5464753 - 03/31/06 04:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Bellylard stated:

Did I say Canada was a power house?


EVERYONE TAKE A LOOK AT HIS LINK!!!!!!

This is a classical example of a statical trickery. Those figures are based on the GNP of each country.

Who do you think has a bigger economy? The USA or Finland?

THE USA GIVES MORE AID then any other country. The biggest dollar figure hands down, comes from the USA.

NICE TRY!!!!!

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp


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This page: http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp.
http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp?p=1


The US being the wealthiest, strongest and most influential nation, it is worth seeing how their actions or inaction affect other nations. One notable area is US foreign aid. Being a major part of the International Monetary Fund, World Bank and even helping to formulate the United Nations over 50 years ago, their actions can be felt around the world.

Around the world for numerous years, many have criticized the US for cutting back on its promised obligations and responsibilities, and that furthermore, when it has provided aid, it has been tied to its own foreign policy objectives. Yet, many rich nations that provide aid can be criticized in a similar way.

USA?s aid, in terms of percentage of their GNP has almost always been lower than any other industrialized nation in the world, though paradoxically in the last four years, their dollar amount has been the highest


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5465403 - 03/31/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Gosh darn! No rebuttals!!


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5465624 - 03/31/06 09:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Are treasonous Cheney's Halliburton wells still intact?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5465967 - 04/01/06 12:22 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, really we have

We'll have to disagree on that. With beheaded bodies littering the streets and bodies hanging from electricity pylons I think there's quite a long way to go yet.

I have been there and have seen definite progress

Really? Progress compared to what? Did you visit Iraq under Saddam? How long were you there? Where did you go? How did you travel around?

For you to believe an ex prime minister coming from Saddam's regime really shows how stupid your viewpoint is.


Come off it. If he'd said things were getting better you'dve been saying "The ex-prime minister knows more about the situation than you".

Ahh yes of course.....the Middle east is in ruin because of the evil USA.

Are you denying the US backs Saudi, Kuwait etc?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5466245 - 04/01/06 02:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Saddam Hussein was a murderous tyrant who launched an inquisition against anyone who questioned his government. End of argument


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Basilides]
    #5466360 - 04/01/06 03:22 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You do realise why it's against international law to invade countries cos you say someone is a murderous tyrant don't you?

Saddam could just have accurately said "Kuwait was ruled by murderous tyrants who launched an inquisition against anyone who questioned their government. End of argument" to justify his invasion.

See why the idea is to go through the UN?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5467069 - 04/01/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Alex213 Stated:

Really? Progress compared to what? Did you visit Iraq under Saddam? How long were you there? Where did you go? How did you travel around?


I was in the Marines. I saw allot more then they show on TV. When most of the firefights ended in Tikrit, the people celebrating in the streets, and the look in their eyes was amazing. Compared to the fear that exists now, the situation beforehand was extreme. The people in the village that could talk some English told me that they were required to have a picture of Saddam on each wall at all times.

So how about you? Did you ever go there? Or do you rely on the alphabet channels to get your information? Put your money where your mouth is!!!!!!!!!



Alex213 Stated:

Come off it. If he'd said things were getting better you'dve been saying "The ex-prime minister knows more about the situation than you".



Bullshit. Pure conjecture. ANY official that belonged to Saddam's cabinet has NO CREDIBILITY. Just because you back your opinions on a former government official coming form a brutal regime, does not mean I do. So you come off it!!!!!!!!!!!


For you to suggest that engagements would be better if they went though the UN, is so funny!!! 22% of the UNs budget comes from the USA. Ever hear of Rwanda or Sudan? Or how about the Oil for Food scandal? The UN is a consortium of second rate world leaders who like to feel important, and in th process cause more harm then good.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5467086 - 04/01/06 10:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The quakes are Bush using his tectonic weapons to soften up our next target.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5467100 - 04/01/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The people in the village that could talk some English told me that they were required to have a picture of Saddam on each wall at all times.


That's pretty scary. And there was I thinking that scores of beheaded bodies littering the streets and corpses hanging from electricty pylons was bad.

Bullshit. Pure conjecture. ANY official that belonged to Saddam's cabinet has NO CREDIBILITY. Just because you back your opinions on a former government official coming form a brutal regime, does not mean I do. So you come off it!!!!!!!!!!!


Allawi said it. He wasn't prime minister under Saddam. He was prime minister after the invasion. The americans endorsed him.

You were in Iraq and you don't even know who Allawi was?

For you to suggest that engagements would be better if they went though the UN, is so funny!!!

So you believe any lunatic who wants to should be allowed to invade another country? Just because he says "He's a bad man and I bet he's got the capacity to build WMD in 50 years time"? Are you serious?


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    #5467105 - 04/01/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Alex213 said:
So you believe any lunatic who wants to should be allowed to invade another country?



Yes.

Quote:

Alex213 said:
Are you serious?



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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: daimyo]
    #5467116 - 04/01/06 11:08 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

:grin:

Saddam had just as much right to invade Kuwait as Bush had to invade Iraq. Probably more so.


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    #5467120 - 04/01/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm sure if you were to write him a letter, and ask, he'd be more than willing to share the details of his thought process.


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    #5467126 - 04/01/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

His thought process involved bases in Saudi Arabia and American hegemony. A complete and unnecessary bloodbath unless you removed Saddam in the first place.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: bukkake]
    #5467865 - 04/01/06 03:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

alex213 stated:
Allawi said it. He wasn't prime minister under Saddam. He was prime minister after the invasion. The americans endorsed him.

You were in Iraq and you don't even know who Allawi was


You never told what prime minister you were referring to until now. If you are questioning my service to my country with the above sentence, proceed with caution. Unlike being feed the news through a feeding tube like yourself, (I take it you never have been to IRAQ, since you would not answer my question), I have been able to witness events firsthand and been able to come up with my own observations.



I am glad that we both share the 1st Amendment rights men have died for, so I can really see how stupid people are. There are many that don't have a stomach for war, and are in the bleachers yelling at all the things gone wrong. History will tell the real tale. But for some people, unless it cant be solved in 5 minutes like the microwave meals they desire.......well it must be bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5468651 - 04/01/06 07:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Most of the people who didn't want Saddam Hussein removed from power never lived under his tyranny.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Security_Council_Resolution_1441


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    #5469722 - 04/02/06 12:49 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Come on Alex213, No rebuttal?


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5470031 - 04/02/06 04:34 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Come on Alex213, No rebuttal?



Give me a chance SirTrip.

You never told what prime minister you were referring to until now

I thought you'd have heard about it as it was headlines news 2 weeks ago.

If you are questioning my service to my country with the above sentence, proceed with caution.

No, I'm questioning your knowledge of Iraq.

I take it you never have been to IRAQ, since you would not answer my question

Iraq is an awful big place. Do you think you can get an in depth knowledge of the state of a country by visiting it with the US army?

Do you think the ex-prime minister of Iraq will know more about Iraq than you? Or less?

There are many that don't have a stomach for war

You call invading Iraq a "war"? Jeez, that's worse than Mussolini calling the invasion of Ethiopia a "war".

If you think this is "war" then you'd better pray that you never take on a country armed with anything more sophisticated than rocks. You wouldn't know what hit you.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5470190 - 04/02/06 07:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I think it is a grand and noble gesture for everyone who can afford it to personally help out those who have become victims of natural disasters. Armchair moralists may pontificate all they want about getting governments to donate, but the true measure of acts of compassion are those we take upon ourselves to engage in. There is no virtue in forcing someone else to acts of charity, it's really a position of moral cowardice. I urge everyone to donate to help out Muslims victimized by nature, preferably by funneling your donations through Christian charities.


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    #5470425 - 04/02/06 10:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Alex213 stated:

Iraq is an awful big place. Do you think you can get an in depth knowledge of the state of a country by visiting it with the US army?

Do you think the ex-prime minister of Iraq will know more about Iraq than you? Or less?


First of all I was not in the Army, I was in the Marines. Secondly, if this was headline news, you just proved my point. YOU rely on the alphabet channels for your news. Do you think you can make the most logical decision when you haven't EVEN BEEN THERE????


Alex213 stated:

You call invading Iraq a "war"? Jeez, that's worse than Mussolini calling the invasion of Ethiopia a "war".

If you think this is "war" then you'd better pray that you never take on a country armed with anything more sophisticated than rocks. You wouldn't know what hit you.


You have no concept of war, or military science. The reason why Iraq is the way it is, is because the enemy does not fight in conventional lines of ware fare. Just because they choose to fight similar to the Viet Chong, does not make it any less of a war. You need to brush up on your history or read some military literature before you can give an informed opinion on any type of armed conflict. The war in Iraq would be EASIER if they chose to fight with "rockets", we would exterminate them within 2 days, THAT IS WHY THEY USE GUERRILLA WARE FARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here agian you are showing a definite lack of understanding about the military, and history in general. The alphabet channels will do that to you.


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5470633 - 04/02/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

YOU rely on the alphabet channels for your news.

Well I'm relying on film of the ex-prime minister of Iraq - the man the americans felt best equipped to lead the country - saying it. That's not exactly a Fox news op-ed is it.

Do you think you can make the most logical decision when you haven't EVEN BEEN THERE????


Been there for how long and in what manner?

Do I think you had much of an insight into Iraq and Iraqi life by living with the marines in a military base stationed in Iraq for a brief period of time? No I don't.

The war in Iraq would be EASIER if they chose to fight with "rockets", we would exterminate them within 2 days

You're missing the point. Calling an invasion of Iraq by the US a "war" is like calling Mike Tyson versus Woody Allen a "fight". Don't dignify it by calling it "war".

The alphabet channels will do that to you.

Before you get too carried away with this, you should know that I've never seen any "alphabet channels".


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5471843 - 04/02/06 06:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

My God were to start.

I wasn't on a base. When the peak of the war occurred, THERE WERE NO BASES. Here again you have NO knowledge on the subject matter.


For the record, I did two consecutive tours ( I let you figure that
one out)


Alex213 stated:

You're missing the point. Calling an invasion of Iraq by the US a "war" is like calling Mike Tyson versus Woody Allen a "fight". Don't dignify it by calling it "war


How about this? I will give you give a brief military science lesson, due to the fact you are ignorant.

Wars start with invasions. Weather it is a covert breach of a nations sovereignty or an overt territorial occupation, they start the same way. Show me a war in history that did not start with an invasion.............you fucking cant.

Since the enemy recognizes that conventional lines of warfare would decimate the entire insurgency, they choose to hit and run, using guerrilla warfare tactics. Just because you have one side with superior firepower does not mean the war is not a war.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5472535 - 04/02/06 10:01 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i dont even get what you all are arguing about. What are each of you trying to prove?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Basilides]
    #5472555 - 04/02/06 10:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

St_Valentinus said:
Saddam Hussein was a murderous tyrant who launched an inquisition against anyone who questioned his government. End of argument




no, thats the end of your statement. what are you arguing? That that is alone enough reason to invade iraq? Before you take the moral highground and feel all warm and fuzzy in your stomach because america did such a good deed ask yourself why we arent stopping a genocide in darfur, or helping the aids epedemic in africa, or finding a cure for cancer or basically any other real moral act of kindness that would affect the world a whole lot more positively than an invasion of Iraq, if that is in fact what you think war in Iraq was about. Im so sick of people trying to justify one act of murder by another one. It would have taken Saddam the rest of his life in power and then some to kill the 20,000 iraqis that we have accidentaly killed since the invasion. Plus the economy would be better, you know what, Iraq as a country would be better, our country would be stronger, and the world as a whole would be safer. Do you think Saddam treated his people worse than Kim Jong Il? Theres no fucking way that is the case so that defeats your whole argument that "Saddam was such a bad man" The war in Iraq was for oil. "End of argument"


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5473230 - 04/03/06 01:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I wasn't on a base. When the peak of the war occurred, THERE WERE NO BASES. Here again you have NO knowledge on the subject matter.


Christ! Are you saying you havn't been in Iraq for 3 years? And you still claim to know what it's like? The insurgency hadn't even started 3 years ago.

Wars start with invasions

What about civil wars?

Show me a war in history that did not start with an invasion.............you fucking cant.



British civil war
American civil war
American declaration of war on Japan

Do you need me to go on?

Just because you have one side with superior firepower does not mean the war is not a war.

If you took on the Hari-Krishna's next would you consider that a war too?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5473765 - 04/03/06 07:33 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Alex213 stated:

British civil war
American civil war
American declaration of war on Japan


Thank you for proving my point once again, you have no concept of history or military science.

Do you even know what an invasion is? Here is a textbook definition:

Invasion is a military action consisting of troops entering a foreign land (a nation or territory, or part of that), often resulting in the invading power occupying the area, whether briefly or for a long period. Euphemistically, an invasion is sometimes referred to as an intervention.


If memory serves me right, the South seceded from the UNION!!!!!!! They were their own fucking country, thus, conventional lines of warfare were created!!!!!!!

Japan is a foreign nation!!!!

The British Civil war:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Civil_War

The wars inextricably mingled with and formed part of a linked series of conflicts and civil wars between 1639 and 1651 in the kingdoms of England, Scotland and Ireland, which at that time shared a monarch but formed distinct countries with otherwise separate political structures


You are quite funny, since YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE. Any by the way, it was two years ago when the insurgency was beginning to take place, at which time I WAS STILL THERE. You are digging yourself deeper and deeper, I really enjoy this!!


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5473825 - 04/03/06 08:23 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Invasion is a military action consisting of troops entering a foreign land

Are you trying to say the south was a foreign land?

Japan is a foreign nation!!!!

And what part of america did they invade? Remind me.

The British Civil war:


The term English Civil War (or Wars) refers to the series of armed conflicts and political machinations which took place between English Parliamentarians and Royalists from 1642 until 1651.

Now which foriegn land did the english parliamentarians/royalists invade?

You are quite funny

I have my moments.

YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE

I spent two weeks in Florida once. Do you think that makes me an expert on America?

I really enjoy this!!

You don't think it's getting a little silly?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5473942 - 04/03/06 09:29 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Alex213 stated:

Are you trying to say the south was a foreign land?

They seceded from the Union, had their own president by the name of Jefferson Davis, foreign governments did recognize them. NO FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!


Alex213 stated:

And what part of america did they invade? Remind me.


Their airspace, when we dropped the bomb. My God, must I tell you everything???

Alex213 stated:I spent two weeks in Florida once. Do you think that makes me an expert on America?

I did two tours. TWO years. Not 2 weeks. I am not an expert on everything Iraq, however I have seen progress with my own eyes, unlike yourself. You are a third rate to the news reported.



Alex213 stated: Now which foriegn land did the english parliamentarians/royalists invade?

The last part you need to read, and think.....

"which at that time shared a monarch but formed distinct countries with otherwise separate political structures"

Although England's imperialism branded a flag on their acquired countries, the people within them (like Scotland and Ireland) still thought of themselves as independent of that rule and maintained their respective cultures as best they could. England led an INVASION TO START OF THIS CONFLICT!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5473976 - 04/03/06 09:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Forgot to add, the below link

http://www.mikekemble.com/ww2/downfall.html

America was also scheduled for a landfall invasion.......


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5474083 - 04/03/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Easy on the flames, everybody. Debate the topic, not each other.

This is a generic "reply to last post" and is not directed at any single person.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Seuss]
    #5474232 - 04/03/06 11:25 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

actually the japanese invaded the aleutian islands and held a couple of them for a some years. it was the only time that a foreign army ever held american land.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5474527 - 04/03/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Are you trying to say the south was a foreign land?

They seceded from the Union, had their own president by the name of Jefferson Davis, foreign governments did recognize them. NO FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!


From Websters:

Main Entry: for?eign
Pronunciation: 'for-&n, 'f?r-
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English forein, from Old French, from Late Latin foranus on the outside, from Latin foris outside -- more at FORUM
1 : situated outside a place or country; especially : situated outside one's own country


Their airspace, when we dropped the bomb. My God, must I tell you everything???


You are getting confused now. Japans war with America started in 1941 with the attack on pearl harbour. What did this have to do with the atom bomb?

did two tours. TWO years. Not 2 weeks. I am not an expert on everything Iraq, however I have seen progress with my own eyes, unlike yourself. You are a third rate to the news reported.


And you are getting your information from sitting in an american army base.

England led an INVASION TO START OF THIS CONFLICT!!!!!!!!!!

No they didn't. The conflict started and was largely fought in England. Not in Scotland and certainly not in Ireland for christs sake. That's why it's called the ENGLISH civil war.


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    #5474643 - 04/03/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Your twisting of words is amusing at best. You told me that America did not lead an invasion when they declared war on Japan.You were proven wrong here with historical facts with links. For the second time, I was not in an army base. I was in the Marines, and I wasn't sitting underneath a flag, I had my ass on the line while doing patrols, something you will never understand. Regarding the English Civil Wars you are disproved again:

The wars inextricably mingled with and formed part of a linked series of conflicts and civil wars between 1639 and 1651 in the kingdoms of England, Scotland and Ireland, which at that time shared a monarch but formed distinct countries with otherwise separate political structures. Those recent historians who aim to have a unified overview (rather than treating parts of the other conflicts as background to the English Civil War) sometimes call these linked conflicts the Wars of the Three Kingdoms. Some have also described them as the "British Civil Wars", but this terminology can mislead: the three kingdoms did not become a single political entity until the Act of Union between the Kingdom of Ireland and the United Kingdom of Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales), in 1800.

The wars led to the trial and execution of Charles I, the exile of his son Charles II, and the replacement of the English monarchy with the Commonwealth of England (1649?1653) and then with a Protectorate (1653?1659): the personal rule of Oliver Cromwell. The monopoly of the Church of England on Christian worship in England came to an end, and the victors consolidated the already-established Protestant aristocracy in Ireland. Constitutionally, the wars established a precedent that British monarchs could not govern without the consent of Parliament.


I am sure you make yet another idiotic comment with no real historical basis or technical expertise regarding the subject matter, but keep asking, I don't mind being your "Daddy".


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5474693 - 04/03/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: daimyo]
    #5474695 - 04/03/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Phred, how can you ban me for flaming when you let this stuff go on?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: ACN45]
    #5474766 - 04/03/06 02:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The only name calling I have done, is calling myself "Daddy"
Unless you can get banned for calling yourself a name which is not even vulgar........

I have never directly called Alex213 a name. I have stated that I think some of his comments are idiotic and ignorant, but have never defamed him personally.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5474817 - 04/03/06 02:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Alex213 writes:

Quote:

Christ! Are you saying you havn't been in Iraq for 3 years? And you still claim to know what it's like? The insurgency hadn't even started 3 years ago.




***Irony meter pegged***

The situation three years ago means nothing, Alex213? So much then for your thread titled Iraq an "unbelievable mess" http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5397800/an/0/page/2 in which you defend the impressions of one John Sawers -- who had been in Baghdad all of four days three years ago when he decided the place was an unbelievable mess. And so much for the impressions of one General Albert Whitley, who gave his assessment "later that summer" -- i.e. just shy of three years ago.

So much also for the relevance of your much-touted UN report (introduced later in that same thread) on electrical generation capacity in Iraq in the spring of 2004.

Let us know when you finally make up your mind whether you prefer to discuss what is or what was. We're getting whiplash trying to guess from thread to thread which it is.

SirTripAlot, what was the exit date from Iraq of your second tour?





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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Phred]
    #5474869 - 04/03/06 02:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

My offical discharge on my DD-214 was 09/14/04 roughly around 12/03-01/04 from Iraq.....my inital four year enlistment was extended due to my rehab for injuries.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Phred]
    #5477793 - 04/04/06 01:48 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The situation three years ago means nothing, Alex213?

Come again? Where did you dream this one up?

So much then for your thread titled Iraq an "unbelievable mess"

No, the meaning of that thread was that whilst Bush, Blair and the media were showing us staged pictures of jubilant Iraqis and insisting how wonderful everything was the reality was very different.

You really need to work on your reading comprehension. Don't just jump to your own wrong conclusions. Try and think first. It will do you good.

We're getting whiplash

What "we" are you talking about? You and the mouse you keep in your shirt pocket?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5477823 - 04/04/06 01:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Going whining to the ratings over this blew any credibility you had sirtrip. I thought marines were supposed to be a little tougher than that. You disappoint me.


Edited by Alex213 (04/04/06 02:07 AM)


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5478128 - 04/04/06 06:27 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Here again you have no concept of the military and ex specially the Marines. What I did, is what Marines do.They are decisive. They make decisions. Marines wont let someone scream from the mountain tops of how messed up IRAQ is, when the person who is screaming, has never been there, and gets there news from a biased point of view, EX SPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE SEEN FELLOW MARINES DIE FOR THIS CAUSE.


YOU have been proven wrong on many levels here. You historical data is in error, and you show no grasp of military science. You will not admit this, and you continue a blatant tennis match of lobbing something back without ever thinking about it, because it might just hurt your righteous ego.


Because of this fact, I rated you based on what I felt you deserved. If there is some hidden rule that men formerly in the Marines cannot go to the rating board, to voice there opinion on another member, let me know. For you to be disappointed over an imaginary rating system, seems somewhat trivial compared to the discussion points that have been debated here. In the rating I left you, I told you, that you need to understand more history then you thought you did. For you to call me a "pussy little bitch" in the rating you left me, shows your inner anger and outright immaturity on being proven wrong. I can assure you, that I am not a "pussy little bitch", and would also like to prove it to you in a different venue, PM me if you are interested in some close combat instruction, I will give you a free lesson.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5478530 - 04/04/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

gets there news from a biased point of view

What biased point of view are you referring to? I've already told you that your first theory that i watch "alphabet news" was wrong. The only other news I've referred to is the American installed ex-prime minister of Iraq. If anything he's going to biased to your side.

EX SPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE SEEN FELLOW MARINES DIE FOR THIS CAUSE

What has this to do with having an accurate knowledge of the situation in Iraq? The ex-prime minister of Iraq has stated the exact opposite to what you claim. Are you saying you know more about Iraq than him?

You historical data is in error

What historical data are you referring to? Give me details, don't just throw out vague general statements in the hope I won't call you on them.

You mean like your claim that the english civil war was fought in Ireland? Or your other claim that the japanese/american war was started by an invasion when everyone knows it started with a bombing raid on Pearl Harbour?

and you show no grasp of military science

What "military science" are you referring to? The fact that I consider the invasion of Iraq about as much of a "war" as Mussolini's invasion of Ethiopia?

and you continue a blatant tennis match of lobbing something back without ever thinking about it

No, I state my opinion and then you state yours. That's how a messageboard works. No need to get upset about it.

If there is some hidden rule that men formerly in the Marines cannot go to the rating board,

No, there's no hidden rule at all. You are perfectly entitled to go whining to the ratings when someone won't agree with you. I would however have hoped that a marine would have a little more maturity than to take an exchange of opinions so personally.

shows your inner anger and outright immaturity on being proven wrong

Wrong. You were the one who was so angry and upset that you went whining to the ratings. It never even crossed my mind. I didn't even realise you were getting so upset.

The only reason I gave you a rating was to give you a taste of your own medicine in return. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

if you are interested in some close combat instruction, I will give you a free lesson.

You lose an argument on a shroom board and you want to fight them? Is that the kind of discipline they teach you in the marines these days?

Calm down. We're just exchanging opinions on a messageboard.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5478690 - 04/04/06 10:48 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

OK here it goes, now read slowly, so you don't continue the tennis match.


ERROR #1 You said there was no invasion during the civil war

ERROR# 2 You said there was no American Invasion in Japan

ERROR # 3 You think that the English civil wars took place only in England.

ERROR #4 You told me I was in the Army TWICE, after I told you I was in the Marines

Error #5 You think that a conventional war ("with rockets") would be harder to fight then the current guerrilla war in IRAQ.

Alex213 stated:
Wrong. You were the one who was so angry and upset that you went whining to the ratings. It never even crossed my mind. I didn't even realize you were getting so upset.


Liar. I rated you because of your lack of knowledge, not personal hatred, unlike the comment you left me. Here is what you left me, on the rating board, something you just said that never crossed your mind:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/ratings/rating.php?where=view&u=138057

Childish () by Alex213 [04.04.06 01:56am]

Loses an argument and goes whining to the ratings like a pissy little bitch. For a marine that's pretty unimpressive.


You are the one who is so upset, that you resort to name calling.


Alex213 stated:You lose an argument on a shroom board and you want to fight them? Is that the kind of discipline they teach you in the marines these days?


My interpretation of "pissy little bitch" is a man that cannot handle himself in a violent situation. Since you called me this name, and I was a Close Combat Instructor in the Marines, I felt that I could properly demonstrate my relative hand to hand combat skills to dispel your outlandish claim. I never threatened you, only provided a situation were mutual combat would occur, based on your consent.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5491645 - 04/08/06 12:46 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

ERROR #1 You said there was no invasion during the civil war


Are you saying England invaded England?

ERROR# 2 You said there was no American Invasion in Japan


Don't lie. I said the american/japanese war didn't start with an invasion. It started with a bombing raid on Pearl Harbour.

ERROR # 3 You think that the English civil wars took place only in England.


Lie.

Error #5 You think that a conventional war ("with rockets") would be harder to fight then the current guerrilla war in IRAQ.


Lie.

Liar. I rated you because of your lack of knowledge

I could easily have rated you on your lack of knowledge in saying the american/japanese war started with an invasion instead of a bombing raid on Pearl Harbour. Instead, I merely pointed out you were wrong. I didn't get upset, take it personally and go whining to the ratings.

You are the one who is so upset

You were the one who was so upset you needed to take it personally and go to the ratings. Discussing it in the thread clearly wasn't personal enough for you. Once you go down that route be prepared to take a little of your own medicine.

Since you called me this name, and I was a Close Combat Instructor in the Marines, I felt that I could properly demonstrate my relative hand to hand combat skills to dispel your outlandish claim. I never threatened you, only provided a situation were mutual combat would occur, based on your consent.

You've convinced me. You don't sound upset and angry at all  :rolleyes:


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5496869 - 04/09/06 02:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I was a Close Combat Instructor in the Marines

Did the recruits know you go on drug boards calling yourself "Sir Tripalot"?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5497001 - 04/09/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Does it matter? I thought you were all for drug use being allowed by employers?


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    #5497083 - 04/09/06 04:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Does it matter?

Who said it did? I was just curious.

I thought you were all for drug use being allowed by employers?

Come again? What has this to do with anything I've said?

I didn't even ask if his employers knew, I asked if the recruits knew.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5499331 - 04/10/06 10:15 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Im out of the Marines..........

When I was in, I was drug free. Whats it to you? And by the way....

Alex213 stated;
Don't lie. I said the american/japanese war didn't start with an invasion. It started with a bombing raid on Pearl Harbour


My God!!!!!

The Japanese invaded AMERICAN AIRSPACE IN ORDER TO DROP THE BOMBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alex213 stated: Lie
Alex213stated:No they didn't. The conflict started and was largely fought in England. Not in Scotland and certainly not in Ireland for christs sake. That's why it's called the ENGLISH civil war.


Nice tennis match again.....I would rather play with a wall though


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5499653 - 04/10/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Whats it to you?

It's absolutely nothing to me.

My God!!!!!

The Japanese invaded AMERICAN AIRSPACE IN ORDER TO DROP THE BOMBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Are you high?

Can you tell me anyone in history apart from you who thinks Pearl Harbour was invaded?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5499844 - 04/10/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Not the island itself, the islands AIRSPACE WAS INVADED BY JAPANESE WARPLANES. Japan also invaded the Marshal islands later in the war. The Japanese ignited the declaration of war by initiating a conventional line of warfare.

And if its nothing to you, why the fuck are you asking?
Or did Redstorm catch you with your foot in your mouth, just like Phred has also in this thread?


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5500123 - 04/10/06 02:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Not the island itself, the islands AIRSPACE WAS INVADED BY JAPANESE WARPLANES

WTF?

Quit grasping at straws man. Pearl Harbour wasn't invaded. End of story.

And if its nothing to you, why the fuck are you asking?


Because the idea of the recruits knowing you as Sir Tripalot amuses me.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5501334 - 04/10/06 08:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Well, your "idea" is a pipe dream, much like how you view the situation of Iraq. I signed my name on the dotted line, and was drug free. Now that I am a civilian, I can enjoy an occasional recreational drug, (like three times a year to be exact). My drug of choice however is whiskey, which is legal last time I checked.


Do you know what amuses me? Me thinking of you as a recruit in boot camp. That would be funny.


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Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
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And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5501978 - 04/10/06 11:50 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

SirTripAlot said:
For you to suggest that the USA give more money to a county that has denied the Holocaust, sponsors terrorism, and is stuck in the 13th century, is completely ignorant. Dont let your anti war bias confuse you on giving money to a country that cant even make friends in Europe.




Compared to the rest of the region, Iran appears to be a beaming ray of progress. Sure, people still disappear in the middle of the night, but there is a Womens Liberation movement which hasn't received much opposition, Iranians have access to the [censored] internet, Christians and Jews are protected by law, traditionally Iranians are extremely hospitable to foreigners, and they have a limited form of representation. They're also helping to rebuild Afghanistan.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5502289 - 04/11/06 01:57 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

like three times a year to be exact

I see. So you're actually Sir TripNotALot  :grin:


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5502533 - 04/11/06 06:56 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Actually, I tripped alot before going in.....actualy had one flashblack, at the worst possible time in Iraq. When someone through a flashbang inside a closed wall room. Not a good thing.


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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