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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5474527 - 04/03/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Are you trying to say the south was a foreign land?

They seceded from the Union, had their own president by the name of Jefferson Davis, foreign governments did recognize them. NO FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!


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Main Entry: for?eign
Pronunciation: 'for-&n, 'f?r-
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English forein, from Old French, from Late Latin foranus on the outside, from Latin foris outside -- more at FORUM
1 : situated outside a place or country; especially : situated outside one's own country


Their airspace, when we dropped the bomb. My God, must I tell you everything???


You are getting confused now. Japans war with America started in 1941 with the attack on pearl harbour. What did this have to do with the atom bomb?

did two tours. TWO years. Not 2 weeks. I am not an expert on everything Iraq, however I have seen progress with my own eyes, unlike yourself. You are a third rate to the news reported.


And you are getting your information from sitting in an american army base.

England led an INVASION TO START OF THIS CONFLICT!!!!!!!!!!

No they didn't. The conflict started and was largely fought in England. Not in Scotland and certainly not in Ireland for christs sake. That's why it's called the ENGLISH civil war.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5474643 - 04/03/06 01:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Your twisting of words is amusing at best. You told me that America did not lead an invasion when they declared war on Japan.You were proven wrong here with historical facts with links. For the second time, I was not in an army base. I was in the Marines, and I wasn't sitting underneath a flag, I had my ass on the line while doing patrols, something you will never understand. Regarding the English Civil Wars you are disproved again:

The wars inextricably mingled with and formed part of a linked series of conflicts and civil wars between 1639 and 1651 in the kingdoms of England, Scotland and Ireland, which at that time shared a monarch but formed distinct countries with otherwise separate political structures. Those recent historians who aim to have a unified overview (rather than treating parts of the other conflicts as background to the English Civil War) sometimes call these linked conflicts the Wars of the Three Kingdoms. Some have also described them as the "British Civil Wars", but this terminology can mislead: the three kingdoms did not become a single political entity until the Act of Union between the Kingdom of Ireland and the United Kingdom of Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales), in 1800.

The wars led to the trial and execution of Charles I, the exile of his son Charles II, and the replacement of the English monarchy with the Commonwealth of England (1649?1653) and then with a Protectorate (1653?1659): the personal rule of Oliver Cromwell. The monopoly of the Church of England on Christian worship in England came to an end, and the victors consolidated the already-established Protestant aristocracy in Ireland. Constitutionally, the wars established a precedent that British monarchs could not govern without the consent of Parliament.


I am sure you make yet another idiotic comment with no real historical basis or technical expertise regarding the subject matter, but keep asking, I don't mind being your "Daddy".


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I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5474693 - 04/03/06 01:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: daimyo]
    #5474695 - 04/03/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Phred, how can you ban me for flaming when you let this stuff go on?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: ACN45]
    #5474766 - 04/03/06 02:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The only name calling I have done, is calling myself "Daddy"
Unless you can get banned for calling yourself a name which is not even vulgar........

I have never directly called Alex213 a name. I have stated that I think some of his comments are idiotic and ignorant, but have never defamed him personally.


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5474817 - 04/03/06 02:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Alex213 writes:

Quote:

Christ! Are you saying you havn't been in Iraq for 3 years? And you still claim to know what it's like? The insurgency hadn't even started 3 years ago.




***Irony meter pegged***

The situation three years ago means nothing, Alex213? So much then for your thread titled Iraq an "unbelievable mess" http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5397800/an/0/page/2 in which you defend the impressions of one John Sawers -- who had been in Baghdad all of four days three years ago when he decided the place was an unbelievable mess. And so much for the impressions of one General Albert Whitley, who gave his assessment "later that summer" -- i.e. just shy of three years ago.

So much also for the relevance of your much-touted UN report (introduced later in that same thread) on electrical generation capacity in Iraq in the spring of 2004.

Let us know when you finally make up your mind whether you prefer to discuss what is or what was. We're getting whiplash trying to guess from thread to thread which it is.

SirTripAlot, what was the exit date from Iraq of your second tour?





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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Phred]
    #5474869 - 04/03/06 02:34 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

My offical discharge on my DD-214 was 09/14/04 roughly around 12/03-01/04 from Iraq.....my inital four year enlistment was extended due to my rehab for injuries.


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Phred]
    #5477793 - 04/04/06 01:48 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The situation three years ago means nothing, Alex213?

Come again? Where did you dream this one up?

So much then for your thread titled Iraq an "unbelievable mess"

No, the meaning of that thread was that whilst Bush, Blair and the media were showing us staged pictures of jubilant Iraqis and insisting how wonderful everything was the reality was very different.

You really need to work on your reading comprehension. Don't just jump to your own wrong conclusions. Try and think first. It will do you good.

We're getting whiplash

What "we" are you talking about? You and the mouse you keep in your shirt pocket?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5477823 - 04/04/06 01:58 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Going whining to the ratings over this blew any credibility you had sirtrip. I thought marines were supposed to be a little tougher than that. You disappoint me.


Edited by Alex213 (04/04/06 02:07 AM)


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5478128 - 04/04/06 06:27 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Here again you have no concept of the military and ex specially the Marines. What I did, is what Marines do.They are decisive. They make decisions. Marines wont let someone scream from the mountain tops of how messed up IRAQ is, when the person who is screaming, has never been there, and gets there news from a biased point of view, EX SPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE SEEN FELLOW MARINES DIE FOR THIS CAUSE.


YOU have been proven wrong on many levels here. You historical data is in error, and you show no grasp of military science. You will not admit this, and you continue a blatant tennis match of lobbing something back without ever thinking about it, because it might just hurt your righteous ego.


Because of this fact, I rated you based on what I felt you deserved. If there is some hidden rule that men formerly in the Marines cannot go to the rating board, to voice there opinion on another member, let me know. For you to be disappointed over an imaginary rating system, seems somewhat trivial compared to the discussion points that have been debated here. In the rating I left you, I told you, that you need to understand more history then you thought you did. For you to call me a "pussy little bitch" in the rating you left me, shows your inner anger and outright immaturity on being proven wrong. I can assure you, that I am not a "pussy little bitch", and would also like to prove it to you in a different venue, PM me if you are interested in some close combat instruction, I will give you a free lesson.


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


Edited by SirTripAlot (04/04/06 09:42 AM)


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5478530 - 04/04/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

gets there news from a biased point of view

What biased point of view are you referring to? I've already told you that your first theory that i watch "alphabet news" was wrong. The only other news I've referred to is the American installed ex-prime minister of Iraq. If anything he's going to biased to your side.

EX SPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE SEEN FELLOW MARINES DIE FOR THIS CAUSE

What has this to do with having an accurate knowledge of the situation in Iraq? The ex-prime minister of Iraq has stated the exact opposite to what you claim. Are you saying you know more about Iraq than him?

You historical data is in error

What historical data are you referring to? Give me details, don't just throw out vague general statements in the hope I won't call you on them.

You mean like your claim that the english civil war was fought in Ireland? Or your other claim that the japanese/american war was started by an invasion when everyone knows it started with a bombing raid on Pearl Harbour?

and you show no grasp of military science

What "military science" are you referring to? The fact that I consider the invasion of Iraq about as much of a "war" as Mussolini's invasion of Ethiopia?

and you continue a blatant tennis match of lobbing something back without ever thinking about it

No, I state my opinion and then you state yours. That's how a messageboard works. No need to get upset about it.

If there is some hidden rule that men formerly in the Marines cannot go to the rating board,

No, there's no hidden rule at all. You are perfectly entitled to go whining to the ratings when someone won't agree with you. I would however have hoped that a marine would have a little more maturity than to take an exchange of opinions so personally.

shows your inner anger and outright immaturity on being proven wrong

Wrong. You were the one who was so angry and upset that you went whining to the ratings. It never even crossed my mind. I didn't even realise you were getting so upset.

The only reason I gave you a rating was to give you a taste of your own medicine in return. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

if you are interested in some close combat instruction, I will give you a free lesson.

You lose an argument on a shroom board and you want to fight them? Is that the kind of discipline they teach you in the marines these days?

Calm down. We're just exchanging opinions on a messageboard.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5478690 - 04/04/06 10:48 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

OK here it goes, now read slowly, so you don't continue the tennis match.


ERROR #1 You said there was no invasion during the civil war

ERROR# 2 You said there was no American Invasion in Japan

ERROR # 3 You think that the English civil wars took place only in England.

ERROR #4 You told me I was in the Army TWICE, after I told you I was in the Marines

Error #5 You think that a conventional war ("with rockets") would be harder to fight then the current guerrilla war in IRAQ.

Alex213 stated:
Wrong. You were the one who was so angry and upset that you went whining to the ratings. It never even crossed my mind. I didn't even realize you were getting so upset.


Liar. I rated you because of your lack of knowledge, not personal hatred, unlike the comment you left me. Here is what you left me, on the rating board, something you just said that never crossed your mind:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/ratings/rating.php?where=view&u=138057

Childish () by Alex213 [04.04.06 01:56am]

Loses an argument and goes whining to the ratings like a pissy little bitch. For a marine that's pretty unimpressive.


You are the one who is so upset, that you resort to name calling.


Alex213 stated:You lose an argument on a shroom board and you want to fight them? Is that the kind of discipline they teach you in the marines these days?


My interpretation of "pissy little bitch" is a man that cannot handle himself in a violent situation. Since you called me this name, and I was a Close Combat Instructor in the Marines, I felt that I could properly demonstrate my relative hand to hand combat skills to dispel your outlandish claim. I never threatened you, only provided a situation were mutual combat would occur, based on your consent.


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5491645 - 04/08/06 12:46 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

ERROR #1 You said there was no invasion during the civil war


Are you saying England invaded England?

ERROR# 2 You said there was no American Invasion in Japan


Don't lie. I said the american/japanese war didn't start with an invasion. It started with a bombing raid on Pearl Harbour.

ERROR # 3 You think that the English civil wars took place only in England.


Lie.

Error #5 You think that a conventional war ("with rockets") would be harder to fight then the current guerrilla war in IRAQ.


Lie.

Liar. I rated you because of your lack of knowledge

I could easily have rated you on your lack of knowledge in saying the american/japanese war started with an invasion instead of a bombing raid on Pearl Harbour. Instead, I merely pointed out you were wrong. I didn't get upset, take it personally and go whining to the ratings.

You are the one who is so upset

You were the one who was so upset you needed to take it personally and go to the ratings. Discussing it in the thread clearly wasn't personal enough for you. Once you go down that route be prepared to take a little of your own medicine.

Since you called me this name, and I was a Close Combat Instructor in the Marines, I felt that I could properly demonstrate my relative hand to hand combat skills to dispel your outlandish claim. I never threatened you, only provided a situation were mutual combat would occur, based on your consent.

You've convinced me. You don't sound upset and angry at all  :rolleyes:


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5496869 - 04/09/06 02:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I was a Close Combat Instructor in the Marines

Did the recruits know you go on drug boards calling yourself "Sir Tripalot"?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5497001 - 04/09/06 03:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Does it matter? I thought you were all for drug use being allowed by employers?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Redstorm]
    #5497083 - 04/09/06 04:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Does it matter?

Who said it did? I was just curious.

I thought you were all for drug use being allowed by employers?

Come again? What has this to do with anything I've said?

I didn't even ask if his employers knew, I asked if the recruits knew.


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5499331 - 04/10/06 10:15 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Im out of the Marines..........

When I was in, I was drug free. Whats it to you? And by the way....

Alex213 stated;
Don't lie. I said the american/japanese war didn't start with an invasion. It started with a bombing raid on Pearl Harbour


My God!!!!!

The Japanese invaded AMERICAN AIRSPACE IN ORDER TO DROP THE BOMBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Alex213 stated: Lie
Alex213stated:No they didn't. The conflict started and was largely fought in England. Not in Scotland and certainly not in Ireland for christs sake. That's why it's called the ENGLISH civil war.


Nice tennis match again.....I would rather play with a wall though


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5499653 - 04/10/06 12:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Whats it to you?

It's absolutely nothing to me.

My God!!!!!

The Japanese invaded AMERICAN AIRSPACE IN ORDER TO DROP THE BOMBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Are you high?

Can you tell me anyone in history apart from you who thinks Pearl Harbour was invaded?


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: Alex213]
    #5499844 - 04/10/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Not the island itself, the islands AIRSPACE WAS INVADED BY JAPANESE WARPLANES. Japan also invaded the Marshal islands later in the war. The Japanese ignited the declaration of war by initiating a conventional line of warfare.

And if its nothing to you, why the fuck are you asking?
Or did Redstorm catch you with your foot in your mouth, just like Phred has also in this thread?


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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Re: Quakes Rock Iran [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #5500123 - 04/10/06 02:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Not the island itself, the islands AIRSPACE WAS INVADED BY JAPANESE WARPLANES

WTF?

Quit grasping at straws man. Pearl Harbour wasn't invaded. End of story.

And if its nothing to you, why the fuck are you asking?


Because the idea of the recruits knowing you as Sir Tripalot amuses me.


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