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Energy flow
    #5459774 - 03/30/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

ok so after an intense trip yesterday, i feel this energy flow all aroung me.. like i 'bond' with everyting im touching. it requires a little but of concentration, and once i get a 'feel' for it i gotta just flow with it instead of understanding it or it goes away.

make any sense?

its soo weird right now im touching my computer as i type and its like i feel a vibration.. its hard to explain... does anyone know what I mean, and how to improve it?

it always seem to happen after an intense trip. and usually i hand on to this 'ability' until it dissipates for lack of practice etc.

any input?  :smile:


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Re: Energy flow [Re: DICK]
    #5459867 - 03/30/06 02:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

you should practice tai chi or yoga or qi gong and read up on bodily energy, chi/prana/qi whatever you want to call it.

i know what you mean but not in the intensity that you seem to be feeling it........ i felt the pulse of an orange once on a tiny dose of mescaline.....

if i touch my mouse i can send my energy into it and "feel" the mouse.

also Buddhists have internal/external jihanas, states of supreme meditation.... in external jihana if you are meditating upon a flower you can BECOME the flower so to speak........


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Re: Energy flow [Re: leery11]
    #5460029 - 03/30/06 02:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yea im still feeling it almost 20 hours after my trip... it gets really strong if i just sit and 'meditate' on it... i can feel the floor walls anything i make contact with it... it pretty fun to play with.

man if i would have felt this i would say anyone else who talks about this is bullshitting :smile2:

im gonna see just how 'deep' i can go. jeez i really wish i had a girlfriend next to me.. i can only wonder how good it would be :P

off to meditating! (and this will be my very first time... sucks i live in the city... the constant noise.. UGH!)


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Re: Energy flow [Re: DICK]
    #5461013 - 03/30/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

hey dude for meditating.......... balance your chakras! now is the perfect time to.
http://www.eclecticenergies.com/chakras/open.php
start with the root and don't progress upward until it's open or you feel that your energy is now circulating differently.

actually i wouldn't go anywhere above the heart, you only have a temporary energy boost from tripping and you don't want to mess things up by opening your third eye, throat or crown, when they arne't normally used to being open (i would suppose, i don't know what your energy is like) the heart is supposed to yield to transcendental experiences equally well via emptying everything out sort of an ego-loss I think.

http://members.tripod.com/~parvati/psyyoga.html


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Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


Edited by leery11 (03/30/06 06:14 PM)


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Re: Energy flow [Re: leery11]
    #5461981 - 03/30/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

its so weird... meditating was a disaster... i just dont know how. but i learn that through breathing i can gain this 'feel' for the energy. ive been playing with 'it' so much that its become second nature and i actualy have to concentrate to shut it off

make sense?

this is unbelievable since im not tripping anymore.. i never thought this things to be possible...

its like i connect with the objects around me when i touch them. i become one with them. everything feels 'bendable' and like water.

has anyone experience this??? do you know what i mean???

i remember one time tripping balls and i could actually feel the energy from the air... i even 'danced' around it and it looked more like i was doing some martial arts. (yea, weird shit happens when youre tripping) however, right now i cant connect witht the air but more with the objects.

ugh.. this is such a new experience. i dont even know what it is, what you call it, nothing... all i know its that its fun :smile:


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Re: Energy flow [Re: leery11]
    #5462381 - 03/31/06 12:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

you don't become the flower

you don't become one with the flower

you realize you already are the flower


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Re: Energy flow [Re: DICK]
    #5462442 - 03/31/06 12:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, post traumatic trip syndrome... :mushroom2:

You've obviously unlocked some form of spiritual awareness. Your lucky if all your feeling is good energy...Im a firm believer in auras and energies, although I havnt ever experienced this paticular sensation personally, not consistantly anywayz, being an empathegenic person by nature. What exactly do you mean like water? also, are you manipulating the energies or are you merely witnessing them?

Feeling the energy from the air is not uncommen, ever stick your head of a speeding car? Perhaps you have become over sensitive to your bodies extensive nervous system...Cut your arm and see if the pain is any worse...Or break an object and see if you feel that. Try focusing on an object very hard and see if anything happens and for Gods sake, send me some of those shrooms which you obviously cultivated on MDMA substrate !!!!

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Re: Energy flow [Re: WIZOLZ]
    #5463097 - 03/31/06 08:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

you know what, screw it... this is something i have to figure out on my on. :crazy2:  :thumbup:


Edited by DICK (03/31/06 09:05 AM)


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Re: Energy flow [Re: Cherk]
    #5464444 - 03/31/06 02:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Smoker For Peace said:
you don't become the flower

you don't become one with the flower

you realize you already are the flower



That's the same thing man.

You have an ego until it dissolves, and when you can dissolve it and reach unity with a flower, is that not becoming a flower? You are NOT the flower right now..... you are only your ego right now.

This is a process, then, through meditation of becoming..... of getting rid of separation. Is it not the same? Quite so once that happens you are the flower just rightly so as you are a human, but you still have a human body unless you choose to leave it behind.


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....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


Edited by leery11 (03/31/06 02:57 PM)


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Re: Energy flow [Re: leery11]
    #5464865 - 03/31/06 05:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

becoming the flower means that at a time you were not the flower

we are always the flower, we just forget
meditation makes us remember


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Re: Energy flow [Re: leery11]
    #5464890 - 03/31/06 05:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

the difference is

meditate to forget vs
meditate to remember


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Edited by Smoker For Peace (03/31/06 05:41 PM)


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Re: Energy flow [Re: leery11]
    #5464921 - 03/31/06 05:45 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

become a flower and now you have the ego of a flower
become everything and nothing and be god


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Re: Energy flow [Re: Cherk]
    #5465425 - 03/31/06 08:28 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Smoker For Peace said:
becoming the flower means that at a time you were not the flower

we are always the flower, we just forget
meditation makes us remember



mmm how do you know? Buddhists don't think plants are sentient beings..... at least not the leader of the monastery that I overheard someone talking to.....

though they acknowledge that you as a deva can inhabit trees.... etc.....

I don't know that we were ever flowers.... I would say flowers are part of us, as everything in the universe is part of us, but that we are the unique focus of consciousness..... I'd animal existence is possible, but plant existence, may be reserved for the human who has attained high enough enlightenment, and it would not be being a plant as such, but perhaps bound to the kingdom of plants to rest for a while?

Who knows..... is this not what you mean?

I would think of life being an objective dream... such as everything in the world is linked to you, and you to everything else.... flowers represent sexuality and potency in respect to other living organisms and are connected to our psyches as such on a certain level.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


Edited by leery11 (03/31/06 08:28 PM)


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Re: Energy flow [Re: leery11]
    #5465719 - 03/31/06 10:31 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

ha its funny cause i was a flower in the trip before this one

okay you can bash me now

and NO im not gay

it was weird though... i remember it clearly... i started feeling refreshed, i remember i (the flower) was puple, or more like violet.

whatever... theyre both the same

it was an ordinary wild flower... id search for a pic online but its unimportant. unless it means something(?) it had about 4 or 5 petals... and i remember at first thinking this is so 'gay'. but it didnt last that long...maybe cause flowers dont have such a long lifespan anyway.

it was pretty cool. it was sunny and there was this nice breeze flowing... then my trip change... like always into something darker.

ive been nothing

and ive been everything.

nothing is such a sick feeling since youre well NOTHING... but in the back of my ming i knew that as being noting i was everything.

read my trip report if you feel like it... you can search for it in the trip report forum under 'the meaning of everything'.. scroll down to where i get into the 'indepth' experience :thumbup:


by the way i can still feel the energy... last night, i felt my heart stop (again) 'cept while in other times im 'tripping' this time i was wide awake. it was really weird. i even sat up and there i was.. without a heartbeat but breathing. everything black and white. then as soon as i worried my heart began to beat... i was pretty freaked out.. (what does it all mean???)so i did the only thing i could think of as relaxing and put on some mozart :thumbup:

i still feel i 'blend' with the objects.

and im still so confused and left without answers.

:frown:


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Re: Energy flow [Re: DICK]
    #5465778 - 03/31/06 10:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I don't know how to help except to say that it will get better if you try. Figure things out.

It might seem like it's impossible, but you can make things change.

I have a feeling that I should tell you - don't play games with nature's mind. Don't try to posess everything. You can't. Just experience it. You are it. Everything around you is it. So just experience. Keep things simple.


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Re: Energy flow [Re: leery11]
    #5465963 - 04/01/06 12:21 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

no that's not what I mean, I don't believe in the reincarnation dogma that goes with certain sects of buddhism


forgetting that we are the flower comes from the illusion of being seperate from  all of existence.  our experience of self relies on the five aggregates(sensation, perception, mind, body, consciousness) which are unexplainable phenomena giving illusion to self only when all 5 are present


I only use flower as an example, anything that we perceive ourselves as being seperate from can replace the word flower in this post

:heart:


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Re: Energy flow [Re: Cherk]
    #5466042 - 04/01/06 12:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

We are the flower/keyboard/steering wheel...everything.....because we are all made out of the same energy or "quantum foam"

We just have a different shape/form.

We are all just an imagination of God.


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Re: Energy flow [Re: DICK]
    #5471392 - 04/02/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

feel the feel! :wink:


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Re: Energy flow [Re: Gomp]
    #5475613 - 04/03/06 05:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I've been feeling some strange new energies, hope and light recently, sans tripping. There are many across the world who are saying there are things brewing... I can feel it, my friends have felt it, what about you guys?


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Re: Energy flow [Re: Ordep]
    #5476570 - 04/03/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I feel as though my reality and dream worlds are flip-flopping...


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Re: Energy flow [Re: DICK]
    #5478362 - 04/04/06 08:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Afterglow works in many ways :wink: ...

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