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Rono
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Left Nut City said: Oil will be around long after we are all old and dead. Anyone that believes otherwise are fucking idiots.
No proof of that nedded.
Speaking as someone that works in the head office of the largest oil company in the world, I can assure you that Peak oil is very, very real. We are all living in very interesting times...
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Re: Oil Crash=Doomsday [Re: Rono]
#5459391 - 03/30/06 12:36 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Rono said:
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Left Nut City said: Oil will be around long after we are all old and dead. Anyone that believes otherwise are fucking idiots.
No proof of that nedded.
Speaking as someone that works in the head office of the largest oil company in the world, I can assure you that Peak oil is very, very real. We are all living in very interesting times...
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dedjam
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Re: Oil Crash=Doomsday [Re: Jack_Flash]
#5459394 - 03/30/06 12:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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you really should try to find a better source for you information. I can find a biased website that will tell me whatever I want to hear on any subject out there.
Real research doesnt come from one website. If you are truly worried about the situation, why dont you do the necessary research to come to a logical and educated conclusion?
Remember, just because it is on the internet doesnt mean its truth. There are some pretty nifty web addresses out there that make you sound more "important" than you really are.
Just be careful where you get your info and make sure you truly know the situation before you go preaching it to others.
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dedjam
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Re: Oil Crash=Doomsday [Re: Rono]
#5459416 - 03/30/06 12:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Rono said:
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Left Nut City said: Oil will be around long after we are all old and dead. Anyone that believes otherwise are fucking idiots.
No proof of that nedded.
Speaking as someone that works in the head office of the largest oil company in the world, I can assure you that Peak oil is very, very real. We are all living in very interesting times...
No offence, but can you link any real documentation showing this from multiple sources? I could easily talk about the oil rig I own and how my corporate R&D team says oil levels are just fine. What I am trying to say is this is the internet, hear-say isnt a way to make a point.
I would be interested on hearing any credible sources you have though.
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Re: Oil Crash=Doomsday [Re: dedjam]
#5459423 - 03/30/06 12:41 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Unfortunately, on the Shroomery you have to take people's word...because we're all too paranoid about our private lives.
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OneMoreRobot3021 said: Unfortunately, on the Shroomery you have to take people's word...because we're all too paranoid about our private lives.
I can be quit ridiclous at times, I blame the drugs! lol
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Noetical
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Re: Oil Crash=Doomsday [Re: dedjam]
#5459439 - 03/30/06 12:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I believe him. He lives in canada's saudi arabia.
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Re: Oil Crash=Doomsday [Re: Noetical]
#5459441 - 03/30/06 12:46 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Life is quit dull ... we need a crash.. it might help set things straight.
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Noetical
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Too many people think peak oil is going to lead to Mad Max
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trendal
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Re: Oil Crash=Doomsday [Re: Bikerfool]
#5459455 - 03/30/06 12:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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All these doomsday scenarios assume that oil production will suddenly and drastically fall off - which is really quite unlikely to ever happen.
Oil production will come to a peak and then fall off, but it will take at least a few decades, possibly centuries. Being our primary energy source and feedstock for much of modern society, I think the peak in oil production will cause a lot of drastic changes worldwide - but they certainly won't all be sudden events.
This isn't something that is going to happen, it's something that is already happening.
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Tien
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Re: Oil Crash=Doomsday [Re: dedjam]
#5459458 - 03/30/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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gopenguins said: you really should try to find a better source for you information. I can find a biased website that will tell me whatever I want to hear on any subject out there.
Real research doesnt come from one website. If you are truly worried about the situation, why dont you do the necessary research to come to a logical and educated conclusion?
Remember, just because it is on the internet doesnt mean its truth. There are some pretty nifty web addresses out there that make you sound more "important" than you really are.
Just be careful where you get your info and make sure you truly know the situation before you go preaching it to others.
Yea...I hear www.google.com is vey good for research. try typing in "Hubberts Peak Theory"
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Tien
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Re: Oil Crash=Doomsday [Re: trendal]
#5459498 - 03/30/06 12:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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trendal said: All these doomsday scenarios assume that oil production will suddenly and drastically fall off - which is really quite unlikely to ever happen.
Oil production will come to a peak and then fall off, but it will take at least a few decades, possibly centuries.
What about the growing economies of China and India? Soon, the chinese demand for oil will overshoot US., India will follow. I mean, with over population and all, the demand will keep growing as the production decreases...i think that means two things. 1 shortages of bare necessities and 2. civil unrest (although not immediately)
Electricity and power isn't really the issue here, there are machines that can produce energy for cheap...but that means, it's worth nothing. so...giant economies will collapse because there will be not enough markets to exploit.
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Re: Oil Crash=Doomsday [Re: Tien]
#5459508 - 03/30/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Until then im going to go kill a cow.
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Re: Oil Crash=Doomsday [Re: Bikerfool]
#5459522 - 03/30/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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this is why i gave away my car and bought a scooter and why longboards are key
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Tien
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Re: Oil Crash=Doomsday [Re: funkymonk]
#5459609 - 03/30/06 01:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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nice  also notice how the majority of car manufacturers are coming out with all these new Hybrid models..
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Re: Oil Crash=Doomsday [Re: Tien]
#5459651 - 03/30/06 01:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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OMG no dont pollute smug!
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Re: Oil Crash=Doomsday [Re: Tien]
#5459764 - 03/30/06 01:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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China and India will continue to put pressure on the oil market, no doubt, but that still won't cause any sudden or drastic loss of production in oil.
The price of oil will go up because of the increased demand, but at some point significant demand-destruction will occur. That will happen in the poor countries first, and it will take some pressure off the demand for oil. The price will level off or even drop for a while, so more people will start buying oil again and the price will go back up. This will probably go on for quite a while - barring any major wars - and each time the price goes back down it will bottom out a little higher than the last time.
In this way we'll see something of a bumpy-plateau in oil usage and price. More and more people will find themselves unable to pay the price for oil and its products as time goes on, but once again it won't happen all at once.
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Left Nut City said: Oil will be around long after we are all old and dead. Anyone that believes otherwise are fucking idiots.
No proof of that nedded.
got any proof?
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Re: Oil Crash=Doomsday [Re: Noviseer]
#5460710 - 03/30/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Life follows its evolutionary cycle, humans made their way to the planet by evolving, and one day the Homo Sapien age will die off, and more sophisticated Homos will evolve. Perhaps Homos with tougher skin as to resist rough weather, or Homos with the plantlike ability to create their own food, or perhaps Homos with the ability to hibernate as to save resources. Who Knows?
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Re: Oil Crash=Doomsday [Re: Noviseer]
#5460711 - 03/30/06 05:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes I've read the proof however I am not going into a long thesis on it here. The problem isn't lack of oil, but that oil is owned by other contries but us.
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