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TelperionMoon
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cultivation psylocybe cyanescens
#5459099 - 03/30/06 11:07 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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hi there, i'm looking for a good grow guide for psylocybe cyanescens mushrooms and the only one i seem to find using the 'search' feature is "erics guide" which has the disclaimer that nobody has had any success using it... so,can anyone direct me to a good working cultivation guide for the psylocybe cyanescens shroomies? thanks very much!
TM
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: TelperionMoon]
#5459125 - 03/30/06 11:14 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i was just double checking over erics guide, it is realy no different then the PF tek. Get the PF tek for simple minds and just follow that hope this helps
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: Babo911]
#5459131 - 03/30/06 11:16 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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http://www.fungifun.org/English/Pftek
here is a link to PF tek for simple minds
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: TelperionMoon]
#5459191 - 03/30/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
hi there, i'm looking for a good grow guide for psylocybe cyanescens mushrooms
for indoor or outdoor grows?
tc
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: Roadkill]
#5459332 - 03/30/06 12:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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outdoor. (at least mine will be :P)
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TelperionMoon
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: starseed1066]
#5459376 - 03/30/06 12:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i need to know how to grow them indoors. will a PF tek work with mushrooms that need to grow on wood chips and need to have cooler temps for fruiting? THis will be my first grow.. i might have been better off starting with cubenses but these are the spores that found their way to me.
thanks ! TM
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: TelperionMoon]
#5459473 - 03/30/06 12:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Store the spores somewhere and start with cubes...they are more forgiving to an inexperienced grower (like myself). Get the basics down, form your own techniques, and learn from your mistakes....then move on to more difficult ventures.
You could go for it, there are a few threads that show up at the bottom here that might be a good read...
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TelperionMoon
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: dedjam]
#5470720 - 04/02/06 12:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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well, i can't really start any other type of shroom. these spores were hard as hell to come by. Does anyone know if that Erics guide fto cyanescen cultivation is any good at all? or is it just wrong and will not work ? it's just hard to find much pertinent information for growing these cyanescens especially when i can only get on the comp for a few minutes at a time at work... bummer... anyway.. anyone else know anything about growing these? thanks for the replies
TM
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TelperionMoon
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: TelperionMoon]
#5478124 - 04/04/06 06:24 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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ok, so i have the pf tek for simple minds memorized by now, but i'm just wondering if anyone knows if it will also work with psylocybe cyanescens. it seems like a shroom that likes growing on woodchips like cyan would need some sort of modification to this tek. Also, what about what Eric's guide says about them needing to be fruited in lower temps?
thanks for the help
peace TM
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: TelperionMoon]
#5478615 - 04/04/06 10:20 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Please don't ever waste any ps. cyan spores on a cake.
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TelperionMoon
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: Sinthetic]
#5478791 - 04/04/06 11:29 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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well sinthetic, care to elaborate? as it is, that post does me no good. i need more info please. anyone?
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: TelperionMoon]
#5478821 - 04/04/06 11:41 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I made cakes of psilocybe azurescens using the Alien tek found in the growers guide on this site. It worked alright during the cake part, growth was slow, but full colonization was achieved. I broke up the cakes and mixed them with alder chips (not the kiln dried smoke chips)and they really took off. I was also able to make a liquid culture of azurescens and used that to spawn a grain jar. Both ways worked well to get wood chips colonized.
 That was Azurescens, but they like similar conditions. I think that getting them to fruit indoors would be difficult. The only results I have seen have not really been great. Perhaps you could get a bin of wood chips colonized, then case with a very light layer of some soil medium which has grass seeds in it, grow the grass during the summer and it could fruit in the fall outdoors, you could just set it on your porch.
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: Gopal]
#5481721 - 04/05/06 06:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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ahhh thanks gopal, that sounds like what i might have to do. Perhaps i'll try using half the spore print now to do an indoor grow and then when fall comes around i could do as you suggest. Also, any suggestions as to where to get alder wood chips? as far as i know these trees aren't very prevalent (if present at all) in my area. again, thanks! TM
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: TelperionMoon]
#5482409 - 04/05/06 11:08 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alder chips can be bought from fungiperfecti.com
any deciduous type of woodchip should work well
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: Gopal]
#5485545 - 04/06/06 06:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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thanks again. do the chips have to be from a fresh tree or can they be from partially decayed fallen logs?
peace TM
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: TelperionMoon]
#5487180 - 04/06/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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#1Take your spores, make an LC. #2 Take the fully colonized LC and draw up a syringe. #3 Make up spawn jars(bran/sawdust) #4 inoculate. After colonization is complete #5 spawn to cardboard or sawdust(i recommend cardboard). #6 Next lay the card board into treys and cover 1-2inches deep with alder chips(if using sawdust, spawn mixing is recommended).
No casing is needed, so once colonization is complete a temperature drop to 50-60 will induce fruiting.
Indoor opps. are possible but require cooling systems and controlled airflow.(an old refrigerator with air pumps/stones and florescent lighting will suffice). outdoor grows must be planed around the growing season, and are best put into place in the early spring. in outdoor opps, follow the same steps but instead of laying the cardboard into treys, find a secluded half-shaded spot and dig a hole 1-3 inches deep, water, lay down the cardboard, then the chips, then a tarp or dead leafs are placed over top to hold the moisture in. water according to local weather conditions(maintaining RH) then in the fall you should have your private mushroom patch!
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: ESanceOfCyan]
#5487276 - 04/06/06 06:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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ahhh to have private mushroom patch in my own yard.... drat.. oh to have a yard at all!
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: ESanceOfCyan]
#5487300 - 04/06/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Very usefull info in this thread...Im curious to know what, if any, are the special attributes to this strain which make it worth the effort? Are they dramatically more potent? The local shop sells these spores and I would like to know about them before I try to grow them myself. Thanks
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: WIZOLZ]
#5489589 - 04/07/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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wow, good info ESance, thanks! i have to ask though, since i'm a total newb, what is an "LC"? since it sounds like i'd need to get another refrigerator to rig up with floro lights, i'll probably just go ahead and try to grow some of these babies outdoors since it's early spring here. Perhaps i'll look for some cubensis spores to grow in the meantime afterall. I just got these spores from a friend who bought them in amsterdam not having any knowledge of what trouble they would cause me to try and grow indoors hehe. i -really- liek the idea of having a cyanescens patch in my backyard hehehe how cool would that be! but i'd like to get some sort of shroomies going before the end of the summer (BURNING MAN!!) so unless anyone has more detailed info on producing indoors, then i'll have to do an outdoor (oh drat ) and get some cube spores since info abounds for these pups. thanks for all the info , hopefull others will benefit from this discourse as well!
peace TM
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: TelperionMoon]
#5489737 - 04/07/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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oh, also, about the chips, can they be half rotten chips from fallen trees or do they need to be freshly chipped off of live wood? and how big (length X width) of a patch could a person make from one spore print?
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: TelperionMoon]
#5489944 - 04/07/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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the chips can be aged, but not rotten.
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TelperionMoon
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: Gopal]
#5491557 - 04/08/06 12:16 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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cool still, can anyone tell me what an LC is?
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: TelperionMoon]
#5491686 - 04/08/06 01:01 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: TelperionMoon]
#5491698 - 04/08/06 01:05 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: cultivation psylocybe cyanescens [Re: TelperionMoon]
#5491729 - 04/08/06 01:13 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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LC stands for liquid culture. also there no need to go to the length of modifing a refridgerator for a fruiting chamber. the way i see it the following parts are needed for a nice fruiting chamber self cooled.
1 plastic cantainer(for my example a clear 90qt steralite) 4 generic aluminm heatsinks with fans 2 peltier heat transfer device(used in computer overclocking and medical equipment) 1 250W 12v power supply 1 bracket to hold the heatsinks togeather 1 18" floresent lamp 2 light timer 1 tube of silicone glue
ok so this is what you do.
ok so the hardest part about this is going to be mounting the heatsinks to the peltier. for those ofyou who dont know what this is its basicly a single direction thermo electric transfer device. it looks like 2 ceramic plates with 2 wires comming from it. one side gets cold the other hot simple?. ok what you wana do is make some sort of basic clamp to hold the heatsinks togeather. some simple strips of metal and some machine screws and nuts will work be creative.
ok once you have the sinks clamped togeater you need to cut a holes for them to mount your going to want to place one at each of the far sides of your fruiting chamber. once mounted get the wires for all the fans and everything squared away outside the chamber and silicone that puppy shut.
ok now what your gona do is wire the 2 peltier and 4 fans to your power supply and make sure everything is working as planed. the inside heatsinks should be geting icy cold and the outside ones warm. if either of them is reversed simply reverse the wires and it will work out properly.
drill ventilation holes in the chamber and close with polyfill or other filter media. next arange your lighting if your lid is clear just set the light ontop of that and plug it into the timer on 12/12, if its opaque you will need to put a window into it this can be achived simply cuta hole in the lid and seal with heavy weight plastic sheet or a piece of plexi glass.
the final step is to turn it on and let the chamber get cold and measure how cold it gets and set it up on a timer that will maintain this temprature this will take some toying based on room temprature, size of the fruit chamber, ect, ect. one other option would be to install a thermostat but thats quite a bit of additional work.
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