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Offlinemorphogenetic
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What do you think?
    #5458700 - 03/30/06 09:10 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not really sure which thread to put this in, but here, whith philosphy and such, seems as good a place as any.

I recently sent an email to my friends with the following quote:

No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society.
If we're looking for the sources of our troubles,
we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity,
ignorance, greed and love of power.
--P. J. O'Rourke

After I sent this, all hell broke loose with people being mean and disrespectful and well...human. So I though...would anyone here have any opinions on this statement?


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OfflineDeviate
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Re: What do you think? [Re: morphogenetic]
    #5458733 - 03/30/06 09:17 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

after you sent it where? as for the quote it seems obvious enough. drugs don't stand up, walk around and kill people on their own, it takes someone to act upon them.


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Offlineleery11
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Re: What do you think? [Re: morphogenetic]
    #5458933 - 03/30/06 10:12 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

morphogenetic said:

After I sent this, all hell broke loose with people being mean and disrespectful and well...human. So I though...would anyone here have any opinions on this statement?



Are you serious? You could show an 8 year old that quote and I'm sure they'd agree with it.

If you feed a rock LSD the rock isn't going to think it can fly and hurl itself at your face. Though if you feed yourself LSD then give some to a rock it may appear that way!  :cool:


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....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


Edited by leery11 (03/30/06 10:13 AM)


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OfflineKylos
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Re: What do you think? [Re: leery11]
    #5460345 - 03/30/06 03:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You dont change somthing by attacking the current model.
To really change somthing, you create a better model, that makes the old one obsolete.

Testing for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power is pointless in my opinion. Those are just symptoms of a MUCH deeper issue.


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Re: What do you think? [Re: Kylos]
    #5460468 - 03/30/06 04:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Kylos said:
You dont change somthing by attacking the current model.
To really change somthing, you create a better model, that makes the old one obsolete.

Testing for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power is pointless in my opinion. Those are just symptoms of a MUCH deeper issue.



Oh yeah, amen.
The only way to treat those diseases it to find their cause. And the cause is more human and simple then we would expect. Most peole do bad things or send bad thoughts let's say because of fear. Fear of pain for example. Because they don't want to show their weaknesses and to seem vulnerable.
Fear is one of our greatest enemies, and it's ancestral. And if we could find a way to deal with our fears we would be getting somewhere.


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And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

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OfflinePhanTomCat
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Re: What do you think? [Re: morphogenetic]
    #5460701 - 03/30/06 05:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

morphogenetic said:
No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society.
If we're looking for the sources of our troubles,
we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity,
ignorance, greed and love of power.
--P. J. O'Rourke




Sooo, you are saying is that stupidity is the source of all our troubles, and that there is no such thing as a SMART trouble maker...?    HHhhmmmmm.....

:tongue:


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Re: What do you think? [Re: morphogenetic]
    #5461403 - 03/30/06 07:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

buddah is a complete fool


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InvisibleDisco Cat
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Re: What do you think? [Re: Kylos]
    #5462136 - 03/30/06 11:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Kylos said:
Testing for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power is pointless in my opinion. Those are just symptoms of a MUCH deeper issue.




I'd say that the deeper issue is wounds that the person exhibiting these traits is holding within themselves (becoming fear, and acted out in the above symptoms), and the lack of a teaching role model.


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