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Babo911
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WBS to Coco Coir W/ PICS UPDATED
#5457798 - 03/29/06 11:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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How long dose it generally take? It has been 6 days for my 50 50 ratio. It is in my inc @ 82 deg. Seems to be stalling
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Edited by Babo911 (03/30/06 11:18 AM)
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Babo911
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Re: WBS to Coco Coir [Re: Babo911]
#5457917 - 03/30/06 12:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Help please..... i will do my best to help anyone who can help me
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Re: WBS to Coco Coir [Re: Babo911]
#5458036 - 03/30/06 01:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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6 days is too long if you used just WBS with Coir.
What did you do? just a layer of Coir on the WBS? Your supposed to let it sit for only 2-3 days then you introduce it to light and FAE.
pics? I bet its overlayed
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Re: WBS to Coco Coir [Re: nuk1m]
#5458260 - 03/30/06 05:26 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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He said it isnt doing anything, it's stalling. Which I am guessing means it hasnt even started to recolonize.
The myc should recover within 24 hours and start to take over that coir rather fast. Pictures would help.
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Babo911
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Re: WBS to Coco Coir [Re: Citric]
#5458708 - 03/30/06 09:12 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I will post a pic after i get back from the store in about 30 min
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Babo911
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Re: WBS to Coco Coir [Re: Babo911]
#5459053 - 03/30/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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this is the case of 50 wbs w/ 50 coir...
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Babo911
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Re: WBS to Coco Coir [Re: Babo911]
#5459059 - 03/30/06 10:56 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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oh wait, was i spose to lay te layer of Coco Coir over the wbs, because i mixed it in w/ the Coco Coir
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Re: WBS to Coco Coir [Re: Babo911]
#5459196 - 03/30/06 11:41 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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No. People are just confusing the use of coir as a casing material or a substrate. In this instance your using it as a substrate.
Just a couple questions. Are you providing it with gas exchange? Via holes in that lid covered in micropore tape or some other similar filter...even just holes would likely do.
How wet was the coir when you added your spawn?
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Babo911
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Re: WBS to Coco Coir [Re: musher_420]
#5459216 - 03/30/06 11:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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2 1/4" holes w/ micro pore tape. i used warm water until the coir did not drip but when squeesed it let out a little dribble.
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Re: WBS to Coco Coir [Re: Babo911]
#5459230 - 03/30/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Was it a firm squeeze or a gentle squeeze? LOL..but seriously it's important.
Basically what I'm getting at is that it might be just a little wet. Often leading to slow colonization.....how long has it been anyways?
I haven't used coir by it's self but have recently used it mixed with H-poo...and man..IT'S FAST...The tub with coir in the substrate is more colonized then the tub I did three days earlier with just h-poo.
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Re: WBS to Coco Coir [Re: musher_420]
#5459237 - 03/30/06 11:51 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would say it has been roughly a week today. So next time make it a firm squese. Becaue i did a light squese
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musher_420
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Re: WBS to Coco Coir [Re: Babo911]
#5459300 - 03/30/06 12:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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From what I've found. When your adding water to your substrate before you add spawn to them. You want the substrate so that with a FIRM squeeze you get a few drops. Getting a feel for this just takes practice and observation.
Now something like a casing mix you want it to have more water. Near saturation. This is when you pick it up it wont drip but just a slight squeeze will cause it to drip a bit....seems like this is what you did with your coir...and you would have been doing it right IF you were using the coir in a casing mix.
It doesn't look like very much colonization in there for a whole week at those temps. But It might just finish.
If I was in your shoes as a last result I would be temped to turn the tray on its side and with my hand press down on the substrate to remove some of the excess moisture.
And finally. I should mention this is just MY theory on what your problem is. It could be something else...maybe the brand of coir you used. for example.
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Re: WBS to Coco Coir [Re: musher_420]
#5459319 - 03/30/06 12:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I used bed a beast for Coco Coir. I think that i am about ready to just scrap it and call it a loss. I learn from my mistakes and move on from there. Next time i am going to leave the WBS in he jars a little longer then do 50/50 again and this time with a firm squese. Thanks for the help
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Re: WBS to Coco Coir [Re: Babo911]
#5459330 - 03/30/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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No prob.
At worst give up hope...but I never see the point in scraping an uncontaminated project. Especially if it's only been one week...Try doing what I said and try squeezing the extra water out.
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Babo911
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Re: WBS to Coco Coir [Re: Babo911]
#5459399 - 03/30/06 12:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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ok, i am in the process of making a few more jars to replace it, but i will tell you what happens
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Re: WBS to Coco Coir [Re: Babo911]
#5459418 - 03/30/06 12:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Gl man
Hope all goes well

-Gnostic
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Babo911
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Re: WBS to Coco Coir [Re: Babo911]
#5459456 - 03/30/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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once i get some things growing so that i know all my teks work i will start making grow logs
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Re: WBS to Coco Coir [Re: Babo911]
#5459477 - 03/30/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Awesome.
Grow logs are great, esp. with pics 
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It's a bit wet. Your seed hasn't even recovered yet, which may me mean there's bacteria present. Not good.
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