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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: ACN45]
    #5460295 - 03/30/06 03:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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I have no problem with the Iraq war being an oil war because I am a realist.



Or imperialist.

And empire and imperialism will only get the US so far. I would be shocked if the thought of middle and lower income Americans crossed Bush's mind at all when they were planning the conquest of Iraq's oil, or if he would even give a shit if the "economy" collapsed. Every oilman in his administration is profiting from the war at the American's expense. America has a second satellite in the Middle East and a new land to plunder.


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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: bukkake]
    #5461056 - 03/30/06 06:23 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Im not saying that the thought of middle and lower income people crossed Bushs mind, but in the long run he might have stumbled into something that actually does help everyone in the US. Even though the Iraq war is based off of greed and lies, it may turn out to be extremely valubable. And the world as we know it WILL end once the oil runs dry. We will literally be sent back to the stone age. The only difference is that we will have all of this knowledge and know how things work yet have no way of using this technology. Its really going to be something and I am scared of it. Its going to take a couple of miracles in a row to avoid this catastrophe and its not lookin like they are gonna come. You have to look at the sheer volume of cars, trains, planes, boats, power plants, etc. Everything revolves around oil, our whole industry. It is going to cost trillions and trillions of dollars to re-outfit our infrastructure. It just isnt gonna happen. Read www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net


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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: ACN45]
    #5461193 - 03/30/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

oil is everything, i heard that usa is gonna import 10% from some new gas production here in northern norway, 10% doesnt sound like alot but its billions actually for norway in income. im always glad when america and the rest of the world needs gas and oil from norway. creates lots of working places here and increases our wealth and welfare more than most, if not all, other western countries. but it sucks that us also steals oil in the name of whatever elsewhere, thats not an honorable way to do buisness.

i dont think were ending in the stone age if oil stops, well here in this country there is an oil fund for when the oil stops and will help us out for a good time. but i belive in new technology, what would really suck is if no new technology has developed until the day the oil runs out. wich means we dont envolve much in technology concidering that oil based industry or whatever havent shaped the world at all just a part of our recent history, the future should hold some better technology than gas based enegty or oil based motors and so on. we need to make them spaceships or whatever that goes on h2o :smile: usa should maybe invest even more in alternative energy and new technology, i know nothing about how much us spends on this, but im sure if the money used in iraq or any other war, was instead spent on more research and stuff, it would have been a better investment for future generations. im gonna stop rambling now,


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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #5461205 - 03/30/06 07:03 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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The_Red_Crayon said:
maybe putting more research into alternate fuel methods will be much more effective then starting war in Iraq, and since when did you think that any of Iraqs oil will make the world supply cheaper, Iraq's oil is going to pay off the reconstruction,

Of course oil will be a major conflict, can you say Iran and Venezuela.




Yep. I'm pretty sure 400 billion + put into that alternative fuels would have been much more effective.


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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5463124 - 03/31/06 08:45 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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gluke bastid said:
Over 90% of the world lives in povery,



Source?

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gluke bastid said:
they don't eat each other.



Without the US there'd be a lot less aid, and a lot more drastic measures though.

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We didn't eat each other during the great depression. It was a hard time, but we got through it. I guess I'm just more optimistic.



We were able to come out of that depression. No oil, no production, no coming out.


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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5463923 - 03/31/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I feel, my morals say to me it is ok, its darwinism and I am fine with that. The strong live to copulate and proliferate their genes and agendas, thus feeding the evolutionary machine, which may one day breed a rae of humans that far surpass our current status.

Its and ideal, and its crazy, it is also entirely plausible with some faith and fortitude.


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    #5468628 - 04/01/06 07:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: JonPathetic]
    #5468657 - 04/01/06 07:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

anyone who doesn't read up on scientific discoveries will buy everything that site says.


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    #5468676 - 04/01/06 07:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: JonPathetic]
    #5469459 - 04/01/06 10:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yea what "scientific discoveries" are you talking about? I think what that site is trying to say is that whatever new diccoveries there are wont matter because we have already invested so much money in an archaic infrastructure based off of oil. Even if, say, solar arrays are put on the bright side of the moon, or some other energy source is found, the money it will cost to change our entire infrastructure to support and distribute that new form of energy will ruin the world economy. I really believe its only a matter of time.


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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: ACN45]
    #5469560 - 04/01/06 11:37 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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ACN45 said:Even if, say, solar arrays are put on the bright side of the moon, or some other energy source is found


What side is that?

sorry couldnt resist :offtopic:


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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: ACN45]
    #5470592 - 04/02/06 11:40 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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If Bushs plan works



At this point, that's a pretty big "if." I might support the war effort too if I thought we knew what we were doing, but we appear to be at a stalemate. It just seems to me that right now, we're fucked no matter what we do.


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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: Silversoul]
    #5470778 - 04/02/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

And we are building permanent bases there. Basically Bush is going to make sure that we don't puss out. He is going to make sure that future presidents stay there and deal with the situation.


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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: Silversoul]
    #5470779 - 04/02/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I look forward to the "Mad Max" style of living. It will be fun.. haha


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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: wookie]
    #5470905 - 04/02/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Most of the people on these boards would die off in a "Mad Max" world.


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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: DieCommie]
    #5471149 - 04/02/06 03:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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ACN45 said:Even if, say, solar arrays are put on the bright side of the moon, or some other energy source is found


What side is that?

sorry couldnt resist :offtopic:




I dont get it? The moon does not rotate. There is a dark side, and a bright side(when the earth doesnt get in the way of the Sun) Is there a scientfic term that I didnt use that makes me look ignorant?


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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: ACN45]
    #5471207 - 04/02/06 04:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The moon rotates. It's period of rotation is such that it always presents the same face towards the earth. Rotational period is equal to it's revolutional period. This, however, has nothing to do with the face it presents toward the sun, which is the source of all direct, significant lumination in the solar system. This is why there are phases of the moon. Like the earth, the moon receives equal solar illumination on all of it's surface (well, it does vary in terms of equatorial distance, but you get my drift). There is no dark "side" of the moon.


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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: ACN45]
    #5471217 - 04/02/06 04:11 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

zapp is exctally right. The dark side of the moon is only a pink floyd album, nothing else. If you want to be technically correct, there is a "far side" and a "near side" of the moon.

again, sorry for off topic


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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: DieCommie]
    #5471534 - 04/02/06 05:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: My Views on Iraq are Changing [Re: kotik]
    #5472473 - 04/02/06 09:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

yes, my dad had been telling me about Brazil and their energy independece. I also saw it on Bill Maher last night. It angers me more than anything. It shows how ignorant the people are that are running this country. If Brazil can see enough in the future to strategize for energy independence, what were our leaders doing? Its really a testament to how lame and corrupt our government is because tehy have continually bowed down to big oil. This oil fiasco is going to be the greatest challenge to our country and to think that it could have been avoided if our politicians had not of been so selfish and corrupt is very angering if you think about it. The average people like us are the ones that this is going to affect the most.


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