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the_psychonaut
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how safe is morning glory?
#5455991 - 03/29/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i cant find a lethal dose anywhere for lsa, and i have about 1000 seeds(extracted) waiting to be consumed. i planned on ingesting it all, but am unsure now as i dont know the lethal dose or anytthing like that. any help would be sweet.
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aren't you supposed to does 200-300 seeds, i hear that when ingesting alot of lsa, it tends to be a horrible experience. But that is just what i have heard.
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Re: how safe is morning glory? [Re: drSE]
#5456087 - 03/29/06 05:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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the LD-50 on LSA should be at least quasi close to LSD.. which means way way way more than you should even be possible to eat.
And I'd suggest doing it, not because its safe, nor responsible.. mainly because people like me need people like you to take those heroic doses and report back on reality.
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WeAreAllOne
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have fun puking your guts out.
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koontar
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Re: how safe is morning glory? [Re: WeAreAllOne]
#5456113 - 03/29/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Biomed Biochim Acta. 1984;43(11):1305-16. Related Articles, Links
On the pharmacology of the ergot alkaloid elymoclavine.
Petkov V, Georgiev V, Roussinov K, Grigorov I, Slokoska L, Angelova M, Lazarova M, Getova D, Todorov S, Radomirov R, et al.
Pharmacological investigations of the ergot alkaloid of the group of clavines, elymoclavine, isolated from Claviceps sp. cp. II showed the following results: The LD50 for mice for 24 h was 350 (228-535) mg/kg and for rats 145 (81-258) mg/kg. Elymoclavine induced a dose-dependent stereotypy (doses of 2 to 10 mg/kg) in rats and mice which was antagonized by haloperidol and pimozide. It prevented the development of haloperidol catalepsy in rats and produced rotations contralateral to the striatal lesions with 6-OHDA which were antagonized by pimozide and partly by cyproheptadine. Elymoclavine, like bromocriptine, decreased the plasma level of prolactin. Furthermore, elymoclavine increased the exploratory activity of rats in open field; this effect was antagonized by haloperidol and was essentially influenced by many substances acting on different transmitter systems (NA, DA, GABA). Elymoclavine inhibited the picrotoxin and electroshock convulsive seizures but potentiated the pentylenetetrazol ones in mice as these effects were differently influenced by pimozide, haloperidol, 5-HTP, atropine and phentolamine. 100 and 250 micrograms/kg of elymoclavine produced a considerable and persisting decrease of the blood pressure in anaesthetized cats. At 1 X 10(-6) M, without producing any per se effect, elyoclavine decreased the contractile effects of acetylcholine, nicotine, BaCl2 and PGE1 as well as the field electrical stimulation-induced contractions in an isolated segment from guinea-pig ileum. The observed effects of elymoclavine are mainly due to its dopaminergic agonist action. It seems, however, that influences on other transmitter receptors also underlie the mechanism of action of this ergot alkaloid.
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leery11
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Re: how safe is morning glory? [Re: koontar]
#5456370 - 03/29/06 06:42 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Extracted purely into refined LSA ..... such as the polar/non-polar solvent method..... or are we talking a crude extraction which still contains unwanted seed material?
If it's fairly refined and pure LSA I don't personally think it would kill you...... but it would be dangerous to try psychologically (you can trip off far less than 100 seeds first of all....... people that do 200-300 i dont' get what their deal is, at the max case you're talking about doing 10 normal LSA trips in one) and unless it's pure LSA may indeed be deadly to do because that's a hell of a lot of plant material to put in your body and if MGs are like HBWR may contain cyanide....
I'd advise against it even if you have pure extracted LSA...
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Edited by leery11 (03/29/06 06:43 PM)
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Re: how safe is morning glory? [Re: leery11]
#5456434 - 03/29/06 06:53 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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leery11 said: Extracted purely into refined LSA ..... such as the polar/non-polar solvent method..... or are we talking a crude extraction which still contains unwanted seed material?
If it's fairly refined and pure LSA I don't personally think it would kill you...... but it would be dangerous to try psychologically (you can trip off far less than 100 seeds first of all....... people that do 200-300 i dont' get what their deal is, at the max case you're talking about doing 10 normal LSA trips in one) and unless it's pure LSA may indeed be deadly to do because that's a hell of a lot of plant material to put in your body and if MGs are like HBWR may contain cyanide....
I'd advise against it even if you have pure extracted LSA...
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Abrainspot
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My friend said he supposively ate 16 grams of Heavenly Blue, and hes still living. Your prob fine. Buy some Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds, such a high content of LSA per seed, u wont have to eat nearly as many
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Re: how safe is morning glory? [Re: Abrainspot]
#5456811 - 03/29/06 07:58 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have eaten somewhere around 16 grams. I have no idea how many seeds that was. But it was one very nice trip. I know that type of a dose can do nothing but make you sick, go figure I got sort of sick for a small time.
Unless you have tried 500 seeds, I wouldnt eat the equivalent to 1000 seeds. One thousand seeds does sound like an uwful lot.
The issue would not be possible death, but you can bet your ass your trip might be stronger than you wanted.
Edited by stemmer (03/29/06 07:59 PM)
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the_psychonaut
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Re: how safe is morning glory? [Re: stemmer]
#5456863 - 03/29/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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i used morning glorys, heavenly blue. bought at an eckerd, all were washed with dish soap before ground into a fine powder with a coffe grinder. i then mixed the cold water and powder and shook untill all saturated with the mg. then i let sit for 1 day in my fridge. i tossed the solides that were strained out with 3 bounty paper towels(seemed to work better than coffee filters. i i then let the water evaporate ona plate at room temperature, this took about a week. i just today scraped up the yellowish/brown gunk and it is going to be soaked in devil springs 160proof vodka for three days. then i will filter out the gunk with a coffe filter and toss that. i will then drink the remaining alcohol witch should (in theory, i forgot witch tek i used) have the lsa and little of the other toxic chemicals in the mgs.
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leery11
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mmm if that's the case you could try absorbing the lsa by holding the alcohol in your tongue and not swallowing it.
start with a small amount so you don't waste it all but STILL 1000 seeds is way too much ......
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Re: how safe is morning glory? [Re: leery11]
#5457303 - 03/29/06 09:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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your all tripping. don't take the 1000 for a first dose to maybe 100 seeds worth for Ur first and you can eat tons of mg seeds and not die. you ppl are tripping ha ha. but thats usually a good thing. I'm so happy I'm getting shrooms this weekend YES!!
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Re: how safe is morning glory? [Re: koontar]
#5457978 - 03/30/06 01:08 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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koontar said: the LD-50 on LSA should be at least quasi close to LSD.. which means way way way more than you should even be possible to eat.
And I'd suggest doing it, not because its safe, nor responsible.. mainly because people like me need people like you to take those heroic doses and report back on reality.
Lmao, thats kinda fucked man...but I totally agree!
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the_psychonaut
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ummm... i actually have tried this before, with approx 600 seeds, done cold water extraction only. yes i did puke my guts out but no i did not get any of the effects described on trip reports, all i got was an "alert" feeling and couldnt sleep all night. i used so many seeds because im doing an extraction, so who knows how efficient it is. for all i know, i lost 70% of the lsa and would be ingesting roughly the same as last time. great idea leary, but im not sure how bad 160 proof alc. would burn. is the purging just part of lsa itself? or is it the seeds?
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Myself and 2 friends have eaten ground up morning glories, and none of us threw up. We had about 7 grams of seed each. I did feel on the verge of puking for a while and had to lay down almost the whole trip though.
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Re: how safe is morning glory? [Re: DrGeek]
#5626649 - 05/13/06 10:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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that sounds like it would be worth getting sick over, please tell us how it went, hopefully u won"t die :tongue smile:
Edited by angryhippie (05/13/06 10:16 PM)
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