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BlueCoyote
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I think that is the gimmick of all his site, yes  If you prove that someone can do something supernatural, you have the proof that this phenomena exists. That is it, all about, and it is not wrong.
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PhanTomCat
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Re: Auras....? [Re: Diploid]
#5460995 - 03/30/06 06:08 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Diploid said: Easy. I am having trouble understanding who cares if he can or not and why they would waste their time with such a test
WHY someone wants to conduct the test should have no bearing whatever on HOW the test is conducted.
When you go to the grocery store, you don't take a different route depending on whether you're going for eggs or for bread. The WHY you're going to the grocery store has nothing to do with the ROUTE you take to get there.
I'm asking you what your route is, and you're demanding to know if it's for eggs or bread before answering me. This is flawed thinking and why our discussion if futile.
You decided to interpret and assume why I would ask why we were testing and then saw your own assumption and interpretation as being flawed.
You have yet never even asked ME, why I would want to know why. Your analogy was flawed is right. It made no sense nor bore any relation to anything I have yet to even say. 
Do you always ask people questions and answer for them in the same breath and then call the answer you stuck in their mouth flawed?
What is that? 
Will you allow me to answer the question you asked me for myself?
When it comes to assigned tasks and work, not my leisure exploratative time, I thrive on proficiency, extreme organization, and time management.
Regarding being assigned a task, I must know what the goal is, what the task giver is ultimately after. I can see the best way, once I learn what the goal of a task is.
Say I was a hair stylist and was assigned the task to style someones hair, I would ask why they wanted it done, to know how to serve the goal for doing so best. Are they attempting to score favor with punk rocker, or a stuffy conservative mother in law, or out to seduce some GQ billionaire jet setter. Knowing why they want their hair styled makes a difference to how the task will be performed to best serve their ultimate goal.
What if she is a clueless 19 year old who asks for a pink Mohawk because she thinks their rad, and I find out she is meeting her ultra conservative mother in law for the first time and would like to make a favorable impression. I am going to guide her into choosing a more modest style and explain why that would best serve her goal. If I help my clients meet their goals successfully, I meet mine as a professional successfully.
Do you better now understand why I would first want to know why we were even testing the guy?
I disagree with your statement that says, WHY someone wants a test performed has no bearing on HOW it should be performed. Without answering the why, how do you know what your ultimate goal to be achieved is. Without knowing the goal to be achieved, how do you know how to best get to it?
What if a friend was hanging out at your house and asked you for 5 bucks and said he would be right back. Say you asked nothing and he came back from blockbusterster with a DVD you already have in your collection. Had you bothered to ask why he wanted the money and where he was going you could've saved him the money and the trip. Your knowing the why would've changed the how of getting to his goal for the better.
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What if, if the body works like a lightbulb. Aren't there occasions, when you put something in front of the bulb, you even can't see the shine/aura around it ? Like the moon in a humid night. If you put something before the moon, outside of the atmosphere, you won't see the corona, right ?
The "aura" around a lightbulb you described is there because of the intense light from the lightbulb itself. If you don't see that light, you don't see the aura. That does mean that there has to be a very bright lightsource to create the aura around it. This bright aura-light source is missing in the human aura: the body is not that bright lightsource because they only see aura's around people.
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Diploid
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Soooo let me get this straight, you only get the million dollars if you prove that auras exist....?
Noooo, for the zillionth time now. You get the million dollars if you do what you say you can do.
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BlueCoyote
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Re: Auras....? [Re: Annom]
#5461216 - 03/30/06 07:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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As long we do not know what exactly they see, we could try some experiments, like if the original poster, or the one, who watches the auras of his teachers will hold his thumb before the teacher and looks if he can still see the aura. Or, 'occasionally' make some big dude school friend walk directly in front of the teacher. So we could see if it is possible, to see, if watching an aura without the person is possible at all  And for the strong light-similarity, the moon does not produce strong light, but its aura/corona is visible in specific conditions (high clouds or humid atmosphere)
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BlueCoyote
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Re: Auras....? [Re: Diploid]
#5461253 - 03/30/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Diploid said: Soooo let me get this straight, you only get the million dollars if you prove that auras exist....?
Noooo, for the zillionth time now. You get the million dollars if you do what you say you can do.
Let's call it out for debate ! Does the proof of someone doing some supernatural thing equal the proof of the supernatural thing itself ? I say, of course it does !
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And for the strong light-similarity, the moon does not produce strong light, but its aura/corona is visible in specific conditions (high clouds or humid atmosphere)
Yes, but moon coronas are still visible when you don't see the moon.
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BlueCoyote
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Re: Auras....? [Re: Annom]
#5463187 - 03/31/06 09:01 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Annom said:
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And for the strong light-similarity, the moon does not produce strong light, but its aura/corona is visible in specific conditions (high clouds or humid atmosphere)
Yes, but moon coronas are still visible when you don't see the moon.
That's why I propose different modes of testing. I wrote, if one blocks the sight to the moon outside the atmosphere. Meaning, the corona exists, but can be blocked without overleaping the aura itself by the blockage. Meaning, pushing one big guy of his class in front of the teacher, or putting a screen in front of the aura-giver Perhaps, the vision of aura is dependent on direct vision of the subject, that has to be checked first and in how far it can be blocked (distances, thumb or guy, inside atmosphere or outside of it). If it can be blocked like this, of course there is much more room for speculation. If not, Randis setting would be appropriate.
Edited by BlueCoyote (03/31/06 09:07 AM)
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PhanTomCat
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Re: Auras....? [Re: Diploid]
#5464702 - 03/31/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Diploid said: Soooo let me get this straight, you only get the million dollars if you prove that auras exist....? . Noooo, for the zillionth time now. You get the million dollars if you do what you say you can do.
Alright, I figured out my plan to PROVE that there are auras, to as where I can see them, and everyone else can see them - so I can get me a million bux....
All I will need is a very very fine mist of water around the dooods head poking out from behind the curtain, and a strategically placed full spectrum lightbulb.....
TAAAaaa DAAaaaa....! :InsertNormalRainbowIconHere:
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Re: Auras....? [Re: Diploid]
#5465574 - 03/31/06 09:15 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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I read this whole thread.
Why isn't this in the space monster forum?
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fireworks_god
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Re: Auras....? [Re: Noetical]
#5466179 - 04/01/06 01:33 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Bernard_Savakolos said: I read this whole thread.
I truly feel sorry for you. 
 Peace.
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Re: Auras....? [Re: Diploid]
#5467025 - 04/01/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Diploid said: I am also a bit skeptic on the method used to prove if auras exist with a screen.
Here is another example of why mystic-heads make no progress and why science-heads get frustrated.
The test is to see IF THE GUY CAN SEE AURAS, not IF AURAS EXIST.
I must have made the point a half dozen times so far, yet every other post, a mystic-head makes the same reading comprehension error over and over again.
This isn't difficult: the test is to see if the guy can see auras, not to see if auras exist.
you fail to say why you don;tthink auras exsist
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fireworks_god
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He's suppressing the fact that his aura is a vibrant rainbow of color.
That is, he doesn't want to admit that he's gay. 
 Peace.
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Re: Auras....? [Re: Diploid]
#5467037 - 04/01/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Diploid said: Noooo, for the zillionth time now. You get the million dollars if you do what you say you can do.
I can arouse any straight man - do I get a miollon dollars?
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BlueCoyote
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Seriously, if someone can see auras or happen to perceive supernatural or supernaturally influences things by his/her own will (with relevance to the outside perceivable world), they should do some simple previous tests by their own, to get some grip on the external/environmental conditions, which could influence the experience. Then, if you think, it is still influencable/perceivable by your own will, then call Randi
Edited by BlueCoyote (04/02/06 04:29 PM)
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