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North Spore Shop: Bulk Substrate, Injection Grain Bag, North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies

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Anyone found a way to keep polyfill dry?
    #5454094 - 03/29/06 07:24 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Is there a way to cover up the lids of jars so that no moisture comes through during pressure cooking? I've used aluminum foil with no success, the polyfill filters are still getting wet. Wet spot is driving me crazy!


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Re: Anyone found a way to keep polyfill dry? [Re: firsttimer101]
    #5454156 - 03/29/06 08:02 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

That's perfectly acceptable. I use two layers of foil to cover my jars and the poly-fill still gets slightly wet. It doesn't matter. It is still going to be sterile, wet or not. The main purpose for using foil to cover the lids is to prevent water droplets from entering your jar, not to keep the poly-fill bone dry.  :wink:


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Re: Anyone found a way to keep polyfill dry? [Re: Wronguy]
    #5454272 - 03/29/06 08:52 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

As soon as you remove the jars from the PC, also remove the foil. This will allow the polyfill to dry out.
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Re: Anyone found a way to keep polyfill dry? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5456364 - 03/29/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

drop a drop of alcohol on the polyfill after u take of the aluminum foil but the problem is probably your lc


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Re: Anyone found a way to keep polyfill dry? [Re: firsttimer101]
    #5456383 - 03/29/06 06:44 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I started doing Agar's method of using a coffee filter instead of foil and it seems to allow the moisture in the polyfil to evaporate before I even get the jars out of the PC.


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Re: Anyone found a way to keep polyfill dry? [Re: FooMan]
    #5456966 - 03/29/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for all the replies. I think what I'm going to do is place the jars in a completely sterile glovebox and let the polyfill dry out in there...it's better than leaving the jars out in the open. I'm also going to try out the coffee filter method.

Slightly O/T, but here's my checklist for preventing wet spot. Did I miss anything?

1. Replace polyfill filters with fresh polyfill.
3. Soak the grain for at least 24 hours.
4. Simmer, making sure that not too many kernels explode. You want the moisture to stay inside the kernels, not float around in the jar. Excessive moisture fosters bacterial growth.
4. PC at 15 PSI for at least 90 minutes.
5. Keep the filter dry. Contaminants can enter a jar through a wet filter.
6. Make sure that the wet spot is not coming from "mother jars" i.e. the jars that you use for grain to grain transfers.


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Re: Anyone found a way to keep polyfill dry? [Re: firsttimer101]
    #5457013 - 03/29/06 08:33 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

You can let the jars dry in a sterile environment, but if you pull them out of the PC as soon as pressure drops, they'll still be nice and hot, the polyfil will dry in a matter of minutes.

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Re: Anyone found a way to keep polyfill dry? [Re: Rahz]
    #5457207 - 03/29/06 09:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

What are you using as a substrate? WBS?


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Re: Anyone found a way to keep polyfill dry? [Re: ShroomInduced]
    #5457216 - 03/29/06 09:04 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Anyone found a way to keep polyfill dry? [Re: firsttimer101]
    #5457276 - 03/29/06 09:19 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I doubt your getting wetspot from the polyfill. Wetspot (bactillus), as you know, is a endospore. So if 24 hr is not working for you, I would suggest soaking them in warm water for 48 hours. Its pretty unlikly that wetspot is comming from the polyfill though.


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Re: Anyone found a way to keep polyfill dry? [Re: ShroomInduced]
    #5458258 - 03/30/06 05:23 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Wetspot (bactillus), as you know, is a endospore. So if 24 hr is not working for you, I would suggest soaking them in warm water for 48 hours. Its pretty unlikly that wetspot is comming from the polyfill though.




Not quite. Bacillus has the 'ability' to form endospores when environmental conditions are not favorable for survival, but bacillus is very common in water, soil, your digestive tract and breath, and airborne dust. When this bacillus laden dust or your own bad breath settles on a wet filter, it can germinate and colonize right through the filter to the grains below. This is why filter material must be kept totally dry once it's removed from the PC. It's normal for the filter to get a bit damp in the PC, but it should be allowed to dry as soon as possible after removal.
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