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Secret British memo reveals Bush rush to war, deception
#5453133 - 03/28/06 09:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Bush Was Set on Path to War, British Memo Says By DON VAN NATTA Jr. New York Times March 27, 2006
LONDON ? In the weeks before the United States-led invasion of Iraq, as the United States and Britain pressed for a second United Nations resolution condemning Iraq, President Bush's public ultimatum to Saddam Hussein was blunt: Disarm or face war.
Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain and President Bush arriving for a White House news conference on Jan. 31, 2003, after a meeting about Iraq that would be summarized in a memorandum by an adviser to Mr. Blair.
But behind closed doors, the president was certain that war was inevitable. During a private two-hour meeting in the Oval Office on Jan. 31, 2003, he made clear to Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain that he was determined to invade Iraq without the second resolution, or even if international arms inspectors failed to find unconventional weapons, said a confidential memo about the meeting written by Mr. Blair's top foreign policy adviser and reviewed by The New York Times.
"Our diplomatic strategy had to be arranged around the military planning," David Manning, Mr. Blair's chief foreign policy adviser at the time, wrote in the memo that summarized the discussion between Mr. Bush, Mr. Blair and six of their top aides.
"The start date for the military campaign was now penciled in for 10 March," Mr. Manning wrote, paraphrasing the president. "This was when the bombing would begin."
The timetable came at an important diplomatic moment. Five days after the Bush-Blair meeting, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell was scheduled to appear before the United Nations to present the American evidence that Iraq posed a threat to world security by hiding unconventional weapons.
Although the United States and Britain aggressively sought a second United Nations resolution against Iraq ? which they failed to obtain ? the president said repeatedly that he did not believe he needed it for an invasion.
Stamped "extremely sensitive," the five-page memorandum, which was circulated among a handful of Mr. Blair's most senior aides, had not been made public. Several highlights were first published in January in the book "Lawless World," which was written by a British lawyer and international law professor, Philippe Sands. In early February, Channel 4 in London first broadcast several excerpts from the memo.
Since then, The New York Times has reviewed the five-page memo in its entirety. While the president's sentiments about invading Iraq were known at the time, the previously unreported material offers an unfiltered view of two leaders on the brink of war, yet supremely confident.
The memo indicates the two leaders envisioned a quick victory and a transition to a new Iraqi government that would be complicated, but manageable. Mr. Bush predicted that it was "unlikely there would be internecine warfare between the different religious and ethnic groups." Mr. Blair agreed with that assessment.
The memo also shows that the president and the prime minister acknowledged that no unconventional weapons had been found inside Iraq. Faced with the possibility of not finding any before the planned invasion, Mr. Bush talked about several ways to provoke a confrontation, including a proposal to paint a United States surveillance plane in the colors of the United Nations in hopes of drawing fire, or assassinating Mr. Hussein.
Those proposals were first reported last month in the British press, but the memo does not make clear whether they reflected Mr. Bush's extemporaneous suggestions, or were elements of the government's plan.
Consistent Remarks
Two senior British officials confirmed the authenticity of the memo, but declined to talk further about it, citing Britain's Official Secrets Act, which made it illegal to divulge classified information. But one of them said, "In all of this discussion during the run-up to the Iraq war, it is obvious that viewing a snapshot at a certain point in time gives only a partial view of the decision-making process."
On Sunday, Frederick Jones, the spokesman for the National Security Council, said the president's public comments were consistent with his private remarks made to Mr. Blair. "While the use of force was a last option, we recognized that it might be necessary and were planning accordingly," Mr. Jones said.
"The public record at the time, including numerous statements by the President, makes clear that the administration was continuing to pursue a diplomatic solution into 2003," he said. "Saddam Hussein was given every opportunity to comply, but he chose continued defiance, even after being given one final opportunity to comply or face serious consequences. Our public and private comments are fully consistent."
The January 2003 memo is the latest in a series of secret memos produced by top aides to Mr. Blair that summarize private discussions between the president and the prime minister. Another group of British memos, including the so-called Downing Street memo written in July 2002, showed that some senior British officials had been concerned that the United States was determined to invade Iraq, and that the "intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy" by the Bush administration to fit its desire to go to war.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/27/intern...age&oref=slogin
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Re: Secret British memo reveals Bush rush to war, deception [Re: zorbman]
#5453218 - 03/28/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mr. Bush talked about several ways to provoke a confrontation, including a proposal to paint a United States surveillance plane in the colors of the United Nations in hopes of drawing fire, or assassinating Mr. Hussein.
He is supposed to be a Christian? Bush, Blair, and Saddam are all war criminals.
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Re: Secret British memo reveals Bush rush to war, deception [Re: bukkake]
#5453237 - 03/28/06 09:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Christians cant be war criminals?
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Re: Secret British memo reveals Bush rush to war, deception [Re: zorbman]
#5453816 - 03/29/06 12:23 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The amazing thing about this is that the media are so submissive to Bush and Blair that they can launch an illegal war, slaughter thousands of innocent people and get away with it.
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Re: Secret British memo reveals Bush rush to war, deception [Re: bukkake]
#5454004 - 03/29/06 05:00 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mr. Bush talked about several ways to provoke a confrontation, including a proposal to paint a United States surveillance plane in the colors of the United Nations in hopes of drawing fire, or assassinating Mr. Hussein.
A brief history lesson may be in order here. Bear with me as I take you back to 1939:
So that Germany did not officially seem the aggressor (which it was), Hitler needed an excuse for entering/attacking Poland. It was Heinrich Himmler who came up with the idea; thus the plan was code named Operation Himmler.
On the night of August 31, 1939, Nazis took an unknown prisoner from one of their concentration camps, dressed him in a Polish uniform, took him to the town of Gleiwitz (on the border of Poland and Germany), and then shot him. The staged scene with the dead prisoner dressed in a Polish uniform was supposed to appear as a Polish attack against a German radio station.
Hitler used the staged attack as the excuse to invade Poland.
At 4:45 on the morning of September 1, 1939 (the morning following the staged attack), German troops [invaded] Poland.
http://history1900s.about.com/library/holocaust/aa090399.htm
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Re: Secret British memo reveals Bush rush to war, deception [Re: Alex213]
#5454006 - 03/29/06 05:05 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The amazing thing about this is that the media are so submissive to Bush and Blair that they can launch an illegal war, slaughter thousands of innocent people and get away with it.
It is no surprise really. It is the natural outcome of the fact that major media outlets have consolidated under just a handful of corporations in the last decade. They have no interest in rocking the boat. Keep feeding the American sheeple a steady diet of missing pretty young white female and police chases all day long. Keep 'em numb and dumb and ringing up that cash register, democracy be damned.
The end result is that the American people suffer from both myopia AND tunnel vision- a potentially fatal combination. America is like a drunk giant-teenager who has broken his glasses. And the rest of the world shudders while he staggers.
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Re: Secret British memo reveals Bush rush to war, deception [Re: zorbman]
#5454082 - 03/29/06 07:13 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You'd rather have Saddam Hussein in power?
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Re: Secret British memo reveals Bush rush to war, deception [Re: Rogues_Pierre]
#5454154 - 03/29/06 08:01 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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nice try.
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Re: Secret British memo reveals Bush rush to war, deception [Re: zorbman]
#5454307 - 03/29/06 09:00 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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The amazing thing about this is that the media are so submissive to Bush and Blair that they can launch an illegal war, slaughter thousands of innocent people and get away with it.
Wars bring good ratings... people that want to tune in and find out what is going on... people that want to tune out and ignore what is going on... either way, good ratings. Peace is boring... everybody goes out and enjoys life when there is peace... not great for a media that wants us sitting in front of the mind numbing television. The media knows as well as the extremists that the best way to control people is through fear... people stop thinking and simply react when they become afraid.
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