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cougercruiser
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martha stewart gone wrong!
#5452423 - 03/28/06 06:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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so last night i went out and got a marth set up and i purchased a humidifier along with it.....i stuck the humidifier inside the martha set up and turned it on the lowest setting.....now considering there are beathing pockets on the sides of the setup i figured that some of the humidity would exscape......WRONG!!! most of the humidity stayed inside and when i opened up the thing in the morning there was puddles in my casings!! and on the bottom of the martha set up as well.....whats the soulution?
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Akira
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: cougercruiser]
#5452433 - 03/28/06 06:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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LMAO... Solution is DONT PUT YOUR HUMIDIFIER DIRECTLY INTO YOUR MARTHA!
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: cougercruiser]
#5452439 - 03/28/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You need fresh air from outside the martha going into the humidifyer. Even if you put it on a timer, your filter would probably start to grow stuff. I haven't actually tried anything similar, so I'm just speculating, but pipeing in fresh air will solve your problem.
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: Akira]
#5452445 - 03/28/06 06:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Akira said: LMAO... Solution is DONT PUT YOUR HUMIDIFIER DIRECTLY INTO YOUR MARTHA!
yea, the whole point of the cool mist is to provide FAE (fresh air exchange) which your not doing because it's in your martha, and it gives off humidity.
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Akira
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: Akira]
#5452452 - 03/28/06 06:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You need to put a little effort into it if you want to get anything worth while back, and go buy yourself some pvc plastic tubing, pve connectors, tape, and hoses.




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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: Akira]
#5452464 - 03/28/06 06:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well done Akira, I must say, that is a good looking martha!
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cougercruiser
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: Akira]
#5452466 - 03/28/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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ok so let me ask you this....lets say i get a hose and i put a hole in martha that leads to the humidifire.....isnt it gonna pump the same amount of humidity in the thing and cause the same problem??
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cougercruiser
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: cougercruiser]
#5452473 - 03/28/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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dude thats the wallgreens humidifire i bought!!! hell yah!
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cougercruiser
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: cougercruiser]
#5452495 - 03/28/06 06:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Akira.....i didnt notice a vent opening on urs? do you just zip urs up and have those two humidifires pumpin in humidity without an escape hole?
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Rahz
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: cougercruiser]
#5452524 - 03/28/06 06:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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isnt it gonna pump the same amount of humidity in the thing and cause the same problem??
If you're pulling in air, you're also expelling air. If the humidifyer is inside the martha, you're humidifying air that's already humidifyed. By sending humid air into the humidifyer, you're basically creating rain.
Rahz
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cougercruiser
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: Rahz]
#5452534 - 03/28/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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ahhh intelligence....!!
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: Rahz]
#5452555 - 03/28/06 06:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wait. There's nothing wrong with putting the humidifier inside. You certainly have to provide for air exchange, but that's easily done with holes or slits in the sides. I run my coolmist sitting on a shelf inside the greenhouse, and the water within last two weeks before it needs to be refilled. Run for no more than two minutes, then off for ten to twenty. This will give 85% to 90% humidity, which is perfect for cased substrates, and there will be no dripping. RR
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: cougercruiser]
#5452599 - 03/28/06 07:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
cougercruiser said: whats the soulution?
Tell Martha to go to hell and get a cheap & simple setup:


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cougercruiser
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: FooMan]
#5452760 - 03/28/06 07:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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lol yah my i f-up on the spelling...hahaha
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Akira
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: cougercruiser]
#5452852 - 03/28/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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My double Automated Martha is extremely easy to maintain, plus it adds an interesting decorative look to my room. It's 72 inches wide, and I can fit up to 36 (5)quart containers in them. Besides, to get the yields I get with my martha I would have to stack a few tubs on top of eachother... 

BTW. I only let my Coolmist run 24/7, the ultrasonic is on a timer set to come on for 15 minutes every 3 hours. Both of the martha have their own automization, the one to the right i have the humidifiers inside until i set it up for my next grow.
Roger Rabbit. The only side effect I see with putting it inside is having to custom cut your martha (the tiny holes it has are in no way enough) for FAE, plus also it takes up space that could be used for an extra casing.
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Edited by Akira (03/28/06 08:20 PM)
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: Akira]
#5452929 - 03/28/06 08:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Remember when hooking up the hoses to put the ultrasonic inlet over the cool mist inlet so that the fog from the ultrasonic drops into the airstream of the cool mist and mixes way way better.
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: Magash]
#5452991 - 03/28/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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can anyone post the tread for this martha setup. i have never heard of it and would lilke to study its benefits and downfalls, maybe integrate it with my own setup.
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Solidcell
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: lucas86]
#5453028 - 03/28/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here you are: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/2607744/
And just search for stuff like "martha shelving" to get more info on the shelving specifically. Hope that helps.
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: Solidcell]
#5453121 - 03/28/06 09:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: cougercruiser]
#5453228 - 03/28/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm waiting on my coolmist and ultra to come in the mail. I need to know how you guys are adding the piece that will feed the air/moisture into the martha? Was there drilling involved to the devices themself?
If anyone could explain what kind of fitting I need, how I can connect the fitting to my devices, and if I need to use a liquid sealant, please do. It's the last step needed to complete my setups before innoculations on Friday.
Thanks dudes.
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: TheFish]
#5453279 - 03/28/06 09:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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just go to the pluming supply section of Lowe's and look around at the tubing and PVC use some common sense and get whatever will work best with the humidifiers that you are going to use. plan on comming up with new ideas all the time and and making multiple trips to the hardware stores in your area.. just remember work with what you have and believe in yourself and you will succeed in this hobby
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: FooMan]
#5453288 - 03/28/06 09:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
FooManShroom said:
Quote:
cougercruiser said: whats the soulution?
Tell Martha to go to hell and get a cheap & simple setup:


well done sir, well done
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: TheFish]
#5453301 - 03/28/06 09:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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When your going to add the insertion into the Martha, make sure to use some thick tape on both sides of the plastic mesh to reinforce it. Then place the piece over the tape and trace around it with a marker to get a perfect outline. After that, preferably with a sharp exacto blade, cut out inside the marked line so that when you fit your piece into the hole it is nice and tight. You can then add some tape the insertion piece from the inside so it cant be pushed back out, or maybe a thick rubberband.
As for the humidifier, I have found that if you buy a pcv piece with one end having the screw like material, you can cut a hole into your humidifier and then put the insertion piece into it like a screw to get an air tight fit with no messy sealant necessary. You can see the piece here. See how it is screwed in? It is easy to find a hose with the perfect thickness to fit the other end of the PVC insertion in the humidifier.
Good Luck
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: Akira]
#5453387 - 03/28/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Akira said: As for the humidifier, I have found that if you buy a pcv piece with one end having the screw like material, you can cut a hole into your humidifier and then put the insertion piece into it like a screw to get an air tight fit with no messy sealant necessary. You can see the piece here. See how it is screwed in? It is easy to find a hose with the perfect thickness to fit the other end of the PVC insertion in the humidifier.
Good Luck
i used the same PVC pice on my cool mist works great i still sealed mine.
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: acidbuba]
#5453456 - 03/28/06 10:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: HippieChick]
#5453462 - 03/28/06 10:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Solidcell
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: HippieChick]
#5453476 - 03/28/06 10:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the pics HC, I was bummed when going through your old posts and seeing "This picture has been removed by it's poster" (or something along those lines). That's a damn clean job.
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: Solidcell]
#5453511 - 03/28/06 11:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hippiechick...... where'd she come from? LOL good to see you back.
"i used the same PVC pice on my cool mist works great i still sealed mine." Yeah i just looked and i see it, you can see the little bump line thingys it has around it, i recognize those
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cougercruiser
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: Solidcell]
#5453544 - 03/28/06 11:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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dude....lol my closet doesnt look like that....its all ghetto rigged



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cougercruiser
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: cougercruiser]
#5453554 - 03/28/06 11:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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so i have the humidifier but do i really need the ultrasonic thing? whats it used for?
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Solidcell
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: cougercruiser]
#5453564 - 03/28/06 11:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It puts out a much denser fog that would easily bring your martha to 100% rH if left on for too long. It doesn't create as much air flow as the Cool Mist, so it's used along side the Cool Mist on a timer so raise the rH. The cool mist is necessary for FAE, and the Ultra Sonic is necessary if your cool mist can't get the rH high enough.
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cougercruiser
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: Solidcell]
#5453575 - 03/28/06 11:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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thats weird cuz my humidifier gives 2 much rh
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Solidcell
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: cougercruiser]
#5453588 - 03/28/06 11:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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in that case, you don't need an ultrasonic. Hey, that's just one less thing to buy, eh?
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cougercruiser
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: Solidcell]
#5453594 - 03/28/06 11:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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yup yup yup......hey solidcell hows it commin? get any fruits?
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Solidcell
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: cougercruiser]
#5453602 - 03/28/06 11:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have cakes that I had done for fun besides the casing that failed. Good thing I made them cuz I'll be needing them! I'm setting up a FC right now actually. It's almost done too, I'm just waiting on my Cool Mist (I won't need a US because the CM will be plenty). It's a 52 Gal Rubber maid with 27 blue LEDs soming through the top . It might be overkill, but it looks fuckin sweet, and you can use the lid to blind your friends. I also made 2 plexiglass viewing windows with flaps to cover them. I'll post pics when It's completely done with maybe some casings inside, don't want to spoil the surprise for now! Thanks for asking.
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cougercruiser
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: Solidcell]
#5453616 - 03/28/06 11:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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damn i was hopein to see some pics!!! my b+ are now just showing some fruits....hopefully in the next cuple of days i will some nice pics to show off.....my ecuador arent fruiting for some reason.....taking forever~ the amazonian shot off like a rocket as you can tell from the pic
Edited by cougercruiser (03/28/06 11:29 PM)
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: cougercruiser]
#5453779 - 03/29/06 12:10 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Put the Ultrasonic on a timer. If you want a 24hr FAE use a coolmist in conjunction of a ultrahumidifier(ON A TIMER) 30 min every 2 hrs max IMHO!
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Re: martha stewart gone wrong! [Re: DrAbominable]
#5471357 - 04/02/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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any one use a green hours from target? dosen't look like it has a bottom but i guess i can go get plastic/ruber and make my own bottom right? http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/ref...asin=B0006AZ7FW
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