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Offlineb0ngman
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combining mycelium of different strains
    #5451780 - 03/28/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

what would happen if one were to do this?
would one strain win out over another?
Or will they combine and produce a combo shroom?


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Re: combining mycelium of different strains [Re: b0ngman]
    #5451785 - 03/28/06 03:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I was told that combining strains is a bad idea because they will compete for dominance.  No combo shrooms.  :frown:


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Re: combining mycelium of different strains [Re: blindtheft]
    #5451828 - 03/28/06 04:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yup, they will compete with eachother untill one thrives, and in the end will only produce small quantities because all the energy was spent at war. LOL


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Re: combining mycelium of different strains [Re: blindtheft]
    #5451830 - 03/28/06 04:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, they compete, and by doing so your flushes will suffer :thumbdown: Try a search next time you want to post.


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Re: combining mycelium of different strains [Re: DIRTYMAN]
    #5451842 - 03/28/06 04:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

No they will not compete. You can grow differant cubes next to each other no problem. Meany people here do this each time they do a multi spore inoculation.You cant inject a hundred spores into a jar and think that only two will germinate to make mycs as the others that try to germinate wont be killed. I am sure that if you knocked up a jar with 100 random cubensis spores from a single print i am sure that 80 of them will germinate and you will have 80 differant strains in your single jar. As each time two cubenisis spores join to gether to make myc they will be a new strain. each time a shroom pops up in a tray or dish it will be a differant "strain" than the one next to it in the same tray unless made from clones. each shroom has its own dna and is differant than the one next to it. this has been proven befor some one posted a picture of two differant speices growing together not just two differant strains.


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Re: combining mycelium of different strains [Re: onetime]
    #5452605 - 03/28/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Correct, there will be no competition and no war. The strains may fruit independently, or they may fuse into a single strain and fruit. Either way, it works and the two or more strains cause no harm to each other.
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Re: combining mycelium of different strains [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5452669 - 03/28/06 07:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hmmm, this is contrary to what Ive read many people say. I read that when introducing various strains they will compete for dominion, I know ive read this a few times. But hey, RR is the mushroom God, whatever he says is good enough for me! Um hey RR.....Where do we come from? LOL J/K..


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Re: combining mycelium of different strains [Re: Akira]
    #5453085 - 03/28/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yea, I've read that a hundred times too. However, regardless of how often it's repeated, it's still wrong. Use a couple of different strains to inoculate a single cake, then use each strain to inoculate single cakes. I'll bet you can't tell them apart at fruiting.
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Re: combining mycelium of different strains [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5453463 - 03/28/06 10:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

This is news to me as well. I've heard the contrary, and even preached it many times.  :smirk: *Saved in Favorites* for the next time someone asks. :grin:


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Re: combining mycelium of different strains [Re: Premedman1]
    #5453543 - 03/28/06 11:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Stamets preached it in TMC but then modified his view by the time he wrote GGMM. From what I remember it was proposed that a dominant strain co-opts the mycelium of related strains to support its own fruitings. I guess I should look it up again for accuracy, but I won't.


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