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What went wrong?
    #5451209 - 03/28/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hello,

here're my pics.
The strain is (keepers) creepers







Apparently everthing is ok but... it obviously is not.
The yield is far from satisfactory as you can see, plus the shrooms are really short (quite fat though).

Do you guys get this sort of shrooms when growing the creepers? I thought my mistakes might be:
1. Not enough colonized substrate
2. Not dunking the cakes before casing them
3. wrong casing material (I am using soil)

I have ruled out the temperature and humidity factors, because i now have a very good (at least for me) set up, that enables me to fix the temperature to around 23 C (74 F... why dont you guys go metric!!! :laugh:)

Any help is welcome


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Re: What went wrong? [Re: cupevampe]
    #5451215 - 03/28/06 12:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

your first mistake was buying keeper's creeper.

probably a bad pinset.


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Edited by stelthvue (03/28/06 12:54 PM)


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Re: What went wrong? [Re: stelthvue]
    #5451226 - 03/28/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I know but I was young and ignorant.
Plus, I didn't pay it more than other spores (10? for a syringe).
Anyway... what aboout this bad pinset thing?
Can you link me some document?
Many thanks


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Re: What went wrong? [Re: stelthvue]
    #5451227 - 03/28/06 12:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

You probably have a case of overlay. The casings looks even enough. It also good be the pinset as stelth said.

Cute little shrooms there dude!


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Re: What went wrong? [Re: cupevampe]
    #5451231 - 03/28/06 12:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

They still look yummy lol. I heard you shouldn't use soil... not a mycologist though.


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Re: What went wrong? [Re: cupevampe]
    #5451236 - 03/28/06 01:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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cupevampe said:3. wrong casing material (I am using soil)




Look into 50/50+. Did you just case PF cakes? Try searching around for the benefits of spawning your cakes to compost or horse poo and you'll get way bigger (and more potent) flushes guaranteed  :thumbup:


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Re: What went wrong? [Re: DIRTYMAN]
    #5451250 - 03/28/06 01:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I used rye cakes.
I'll have a look at other spawning teks...
I don't like to play around with poo, though :smile:

Compost is the enriched plant's soil? Cause that's what I use

(sorry for my english, not native englissh u know... i hate to keep repeating this but you know... at least u have a a partial explanation for my dumbness... eheheh)


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Re: What went wrong? [Re: cupevampe]
    #5451268 - 03/28/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Also, are you sure this is overlay?
If so, I've had much worse overlay in the past...



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Re: What went wrong? [Re: cupevampe]
    #5451271 - 03/28/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

You could also try looking for straw info. Not as good as poop, but better than straight rye. Compost would be horse poo, straw, and some optional ingredients watered once a week and turned over everyday.  Easy compost and  Hyphae's pinning strategy. Have fun! :stoned:


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Re: What went wrong? [Re: DIRTYMAN]
    #5451297 - 03/28/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Thats looks like poo not finished coloniziong yet..i didnt even notice it was a casing layero nit..i thought i twas poo that wasnt done colonizing that fruited on its on or something..but that casing layer looks too colonized to me..your supposed to fruit when when spots are poping up evenly around the casing..that casing is almost fully colonized..


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Re: What went wrong? [Re: cupevampe]
    #5451306 - 03/28/06 01:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

cupevampe said:

3. wrong casing material (I am using soil)







This could definitely be the cause of your problems. Check out the archives for casing substrate.


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Re: What went wrong? [Re: Birthbytongue]
    #5453991 - 03/29/06 04:47 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I would like to add, this cultivation has been a big success for me anyway.
I closed the circle.
I used MY prints.
Soooo happy, I just realized that!


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Re: What went wrong? [Re: cupevampe]
    #5454039 - 03/29/06 05:58 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

here is the best tek I have ever read on getting great pinsets, by Hyphae
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/3290155/an/0/page/0


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