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I don't know, I have an eterra and even with KB it takes too long to get where I want to go (meditative level). I hate loading that shitty little stem 7-10 times. It's just too tedious. I wish there was a way of having a huge amount vaporizing at once, and then being able to suck it in slowly, stop, inhale more, stop, etc. more hookah style. Right now the solaria products are a bit tedious, but I really do enjoy the high from the vaporizer, it feels shorter and a bit more intense.
Birdseye, you need the kind of vapo like I bought at 4thc. You can put in just a teeny little bit, and take maybe 6 or 7 tokes from it before it's spent, and then BANG! You are stoned. You CAN put a lot into it, but it's never necessary.
I have even saved up the spent material from about 4 or 5 uses, and put it back in the vapo for another go, and it worked. Truly cool.