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First time
    #5449647 - 03/27/06 11:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hello shroomery, I'm currently conducting my first grow, and hopefully will have some pics for you soon. No questions, I've lurked for about two months reading pretty much everything I could think would help (and some stuff that I want to try out, but won't be able to for a while, hah), and so far everything is going to plan.

So here's some details on my first grow. I got B+, Puerto Rican, and Malabar (which I'm saving for later, heard they can have a very distinctive shape). I'm using rye berries as my substrate, though I will try horse poo in the near future, after I get some grows under my belt.

Made some LC's using first the baby bottle method and later someone's LC with tubing type gas exchange (agar's most likely). Knocked up my first jars with some of the B+ spores (two only), then knocked up some more about ten days later with some LC of B+, and the LC's have already passed up the ones I inoculated with the syringe after about a week and a half or so (I know that B+ is usually slightly on the slow side for colonization, so no worries there).

The PR's I did just this weekend, and already are showing signs of mycelium growth in the LC's, man they are aggressive. I will inoculate some jars of rye when they are done, maybe this weekend.

I'm using a TIT style incubator, as I found this was cheap, effective, and pretty fool proof, current temp is 80-82, fine there.

For casing I'm going with the peat moss/verm with some ground limestone for ph buffer, and some crushed oyster shells for a long term buffer if I can find it locally (if not, I'll do a shallow substrate to allow for less flushes). I'm also going to pick up some coir at the local hydroponics store and throw some of that (5%) into one of my casings for a comparison. Already have a good digital ph meter for my casings.

Hmm..let's see...For a FC I'm basically going with a monotub setup. No need for temperature control as the grow area is between 70-73 always. I got two large tubs, 35 gallon I think, and I'm going to put my casings in trays instead of using the entire bottom, because I want to use different casings on them, different strains, not all my eggs in one basket, etc. I may add a small amount of moistened perlite to the bottom if my RH drops too low. The reason for the mono tub is, once again, easy, effective and pretty idiot proof, lol.

My brother has a food dehydrator I can borrow for drying, but I may build a desiccant chamber as I am not really worried about the speed of the drying.

Well, sorry for the essay, but that's a general overview of my setup, hopefully I'll be able to add some pictures this weekend.

Any and all comments/suggestions/noob flaming welcome.

Thanks for all the great knowledge on this site, and for suffering through this post, lol.


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Re: First time [Re: ShroomsnotWar]
    #5449658 - 03/27/06 11:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds like you really did your homework before attempting a first grow. Great job, and good luck.


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Re: First time [Re: ComfortablyStond]
    #5449745 - 03/28/06 12:49 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Good luck, looks like youve done your research so 2 big  :thumbup: :thumbup: for that! Hope it all keeps going to plan.

Akasha


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Re: First time [Re: AkashaPrinciple]
    #5449977 - 03/28/06 04:58 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Welcome, and goodluck =)

You are definatly off to a good start. Rye is a very good grain to start with. However you wouldnt use dung as a substrate. You would use the rye(WBS is better when it comes to spawning), and spawn it to the dung, colonize, then case.

LC and everything on the first go, right on. As long as you can handle it, more power to you.

I am not a fan of using peatmoss. I have had nothing but success with the coco coir / verm casings. Either way will work the same in the end. I would just rather not have to mess with the pH. Pain in the ass (I'm lazy).

Do yourself a favor and do not get perlite. It is extreemly messy and a bitch to deal with. Instead goto a local hydroponic store and get geo-lite / hydroton.

I prefer using a dehydrator to desiccant drying. Faster they dry is the better!

Seems like you did your homework, which is a rare quality now these days. You should'nt have a hard time round here. Welcome!


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Re: First time [Re: Citric]
    #5450478 - 03/28/06 09:32 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the welcomes and kind words everyone.

Thanks for the heads up on how messy perlite can be, I've seen this in many threads which is why I didn't want to add it unless I had to. I like to keep things clean and simple, which should be a plus for this hobby. I actually have some clay pellets from another hobby, so that is a viable option.

Since I'm doing multiple casings, I may try out a casing layer or two of verm/coir, just to see how it works out for me. There are a boatload of different ideas, and I don't mind to try as many as I can. How do I know if they work for me unless I give em a shot?

I can't say how excited I am about these PR's, they are just eating through my LC, B+ did nothing like that. I'm not worried about contamination issues, none yet and I don't expect any, but it's hard to keep myself from checking on them every day. Wonder if I'll grow out of that?

Thanks again and I'll keep this thread updated.


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Re: First time [Re: ShroomsnotWar]
    #5450597 - 03/28/06 10:00 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Oooh, thought of a question.

My inoculating jars are filtered through different methods. I did one with just a tyvek filter, no jar lid (I know that this may cause excessive moisture loss). The rest are a combination of a tyvek filter over the jar lid with micropore tape over the injection holes. Some have silicone over the injection ports.
I put coffee filters over everything for piece of mind, dust covers, and for labeling purposes.

Now my questions concern the one jar with just the tyvek cover
1) How will I definitely know if the substrate dries out too much besides a slowing of growth rate (there's B+ in there, so it's not exactly going to win any races anyway)?

2)Tyvek has an effective micron filtration rate, so if that jar does happen to get contaminated, it should keep the contams contained, right? Just in case I don't notice it right away or for some reason neglected my jars and didn't check them for a week or something.

Thanks in advance


edit: so Citric, you just use the 60/40 or 70/30 verm/coir with nothing for adjusting long term ph? I had read that consecutive flushes will raise the acidity of the casing. If no long term buffer is required, or the effect is minimal, on verm/coir ... maybe I would try a casing without one, just seems to cut out some steps, making it simpler.


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Edited by ShroomsnotWar (03/28/06 10:54 AM)


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Re: First time [Re: ShroomsnotWar]
    #5455138 - 03/29/06 01:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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