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DGAF
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Couple ?'s From a 1st-Timer
#5449104 - 03/27/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Got my spores a couple days ago and all the supplies today. The only problem is that instead of vermiculite I could only find perlite. From what I read they are basically the same thing. Did I make a mistake in getting the perlite or will it be fine?
Also, the syringes I have have 10 ML of spores in each one. How much should I inject into each jar?
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stelthvue
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Re: Couple ?'s From a 1st-Timer [Re: DGAF]
#5449124 - 03/27/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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you CAN NOT substitute perlite for vermiculite
1 CC per jar will be fine
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figment
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Re: Couple ?'s From a 1st-Timer [Re: DGAF]
#5449126 - 03/27/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Are you using brf cakes? If so, then I find that perlite is fine. Also, if you make an LC, you can stretch your myc supply infintitly with the right maintnance. If you decide to inject just spores, then inject 2cc's into each jar.
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Re: Couple ?'s From a 1st-Timer [Re: figment]
#5449156 - 03/27/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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http://www.mycotopia.net/site/article.php?11.255
That is the tek im using. Is perlite frine for that. I checked Lowe's and Home Depot for Vermiculite. Anyone grab some from a large retail store? Also, mind for an explaination on why perlite wont work? Just want to gain more knowledge...
So yes, I am using BRF cakes. Can anyone give me another opinion on the perlite?
And lastly, 1cc=1ML?
Edited by DGAF (03/27/06 09:45 PM)
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Re: Couple ?'s From a 1st-Timer [Re: DGAF]
#5449182 - 03/27/06 09:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I heard that Lowes sells vermiculite. If there is a Lowes near you check it out. As for why people say perlite won't work, I am not too sure. I think that they say it is too fine. But it has worked fine for me. But if you want to play it safe then get some vermiculite.
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Re: Couple ?'s From a 1st-Timer [Re: DGAF]
#5449186 - 03/27/06 09:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The problem is is that perlite doesn't hold water like vermiculite. Perlite is more for dispersing gas or making things more airy. vermiculite retains moisture and will release it slowly over time to keep your cake moist. If you just put perlite in your cakes you run a rise of them drying out while they are incubating.
Oh 1cc does = 1Ml and its = 1cm cubed, thats why the metric system rules.
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Re: Couple ?'s From a 1st-Timer [Re: DGAF]
#5449197 - 03/27/06 09:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Perlite is not good mycelium has a hard time colonizing it, perlite is a type of rock that is heated up to over 1000 degrees F until it explodes, it stays hard and is not good for mycelium, yes I do realize vermiculite is mica but it is soft. there is some chemical contained in perlite that is not good. If you try to find a hydroponic store near you they will have it or try nursuries if they dont have they can usually order it. If not the best price I have seen on it is through medium mania (a shroomery sponsor)...
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Re: Couple ?'s From a 1st-Timer [Re: MindsEye]
#5449209 - 03/27/06 09:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Actually i use perlite in my jars, I put in half vermiculite and half perlite. It really speeds things up. I never shake my jars and the jar colonize from top to bottom in less than 7 days.
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Re: Couple ?'s From a 1st-Timer [Re: ShroomInduced]
#5449225 - 03/27/06 10:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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THREAD HIJACK: *Snip*
Mod Edit: Lets have at least some respect for the rules, ok?
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Re: Couple ?'s From a 1st-Timer [Re: stelthvue]
#5449272 - 03/27/06 10:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i found vermiculite at lowe's ONCE, there was a table full of it, now i can't find it anywhare
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Re: Couple ?'s From a 1st-Timer [Re: stelthvue]
#5449283 - 03/27/06 10:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i am a novice at growing mushrooms as well. I tried to use perlite the first time i tried growing and i failed miserably. whether it was my own inexperience and stupidity or the perlite, my jars did not do well at all. Everytime since, when using BRF, i have used vermiculate and had good results.
Go to any Wal-Mart and head to the gardening section to find all kinds of good stuff(vermiculate, peat moss, perlite, plant trays, etc...)
good luck with your grow man. if it gets fucked up try again. experience helps a lot, even if it isnt good. u'll learn what to do and what not to do for the next grow.
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Re: Couple ?'s From a 1st-Timer [Re: lucas86]
#5449363 - 03/27/06 10:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
If you decide to inject just spores, then inject 2cc's into each jar.
with PF tek use 1 cc per jar, which .25 cc per hole in the lid. 1 cc is more then enough for one jar.
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Re: Couple ?'s From a 1st-Timer [Re: coda]
#5449400 - 03/27/06 10:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i found the PF tek much better with one larger hole in the middle than 4 on the outside. this way, when the mycelium reaches the glass of the jar, you know its 100% colonized.
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