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OfflineWordlessNature
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I've found what appear to be subbs.
    #5448666 - 03/27/06 07:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hello. A little while ago, while hunting for morels (they seem to be popping up everywhere- I sauteed a few for lunch...), I stumbled upon tons of small mushrooms that resemble (at least to me) Panaeolus subbalteatus. Without my camera, I can't take any pictures yet, so I will try to describe them. They were all found in an olive grove... Caps are .5 (immature) to 1.2 inches in diameter, with a reddish-brown ring, fading to tan as they dry. The stems are gnarled, shiny and reddish, slightly blue-ish at the bases. The gills are light brown near the stem, fading outwards to yellowish and then to reddish brown at the edges... Still waiting on a spore print. I will update soon.


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Re: I've found what appear to be subbs. [Re: WordlessNature]
    #5448716 - 03/27/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I don't think the gills sound right, they should be dark brown and black.


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Re: I've found what appear to be subbs. [Re: Mead]
    #5448952 - 03/27/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

sounds like galerina with that colored ring on the stem. don't think subbs have a ring... let's see what the spore print comes out as. my guess is rust brown


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Re: I've found what appear to be subbs. [Re: xmush]
    #5449232 - 03/27/06 10:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

My apologies. I was referring to the ring on top of the cap (darkened edges), not a ring on the stalk. Unfortunately, someone threw out my spore print while I was out, so I have to take another one... Ahh, it just came out with a little encouragement. Black as night.


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Here are pictures...sort of. [Re: WordlessNature]
    #5449318 - 03/27/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Without my camera down here I had to attempt photography on a mobile phone, which is questionable even when you aren't trying to use the pictures for any sort of specific identification. Nevertheless, I hope they help form something of an idea...





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Re: Here are pictures...sort of. [Re: WordlessNature]
    #5449411 - 03/27/06 10:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

definitely not galerina. looks interesting, would like to hear what the experts say. gills look a bit too pale. Do the stems have spirally looking fibers?


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Fibers [Re: xmush]
    #5449496 - 03/27/06 10:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hmm. Yeah, shiny fibers slowly spiralling up and down the stem. Not at all dramatic, though...


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Re: Fibers [Re: WordlessNature]
    #5449864 - 03/28/06 02:24 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It doesn't look like a pan subb to me, and the habitat is wrong.

The general shape, habitat, and black spore print all point toward Coprinus.


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Re: Fibers [Re: shroomydan]
    #5449888 - 03/28/06 02:53 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Looks like a bolbitius to me.

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Re: Fibers [Re: mjshroomer]
    #5450400 - 03/28/06 09:04 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

nothing ive ever seen. definately not an active.


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Re: Here are pictures...sort of. [Re: WordlessNature]
    #5450791 - 03/28/06 10:50 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Pretty strange looking specimen. I don't think it is a bolbitius though.. as far as I know bolbitius species create spore print colors like tan, orange, deep ochre, yellowish olive, olive brown, rusty or cinnamon brown, deep brown, etc.
It doesn't really look like a panaeolus either. It's hard to get a picture of what an olive grove habitat is like. Were they found on the ground.. or growing from some kind of plant material?


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Re: Here are pictures...sort of. [Re: eris]
    #5451290 - 03/28/06 01:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Might be a Psathyrella.

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Hmm [Re: mjshroomer]
    #5451541 - 03/28/06 02:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'm going to grab the camera from my house today and try to get some legible photos... I'll try to get some of the habitat as well.


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Observation made in today's rain. [Re: WordlessNature]
    #5451867 - 03/28/06 04:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Today, while looking for some new specimens to photograph properly, I have noticed that the predominant color of these mushrooms, perhaps underscored by the water saturation provided by today's showers, is RED. Perhaps that will help in identification...


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Re: Observation made in today's rain. [Re: WordlessNature]
    #5452253 - 03/28/06 05:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i want shroomies


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Re: Observation made in today's rain. [Re: indica]
    #5453152 - 03/28/06 09:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

look like purple,...white,....and yellow on my screen.....Naematoloma aurantiaca....thats a guess of coarse.....


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Re: Observation made in today's rain. [Re: shroominDole]
    #5453585 - 03/28/06 11:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Here are some more serviceable pictures. One more thing I would note; these mushrooms are fruiting plentifully.








(^note the slight change in appearance above after a few hours of drying...)



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Re: Observation made in today's rain. [Re: WordlessNature]
    #5453916 - 03/29/06 03:20 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The spores on the cap of the specimen in your first photo are clearly brown/purple-brown, not black.

Naematoloma is a possibility, but I think you have Psathyrellas.


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Re: Observation made in today's rain. [Re: WordlessNature]
    #5454099 - 03/29/06 07:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Since the caps fade to a lighter brown as they dry, a common feature in the psathyrella genus - and they have the general look of a psathyrella (and since some species of psathyrella have blackish spore prints)I'd have to go with that as well.  It really helped to have seen more photos of them. Thanks for updating, :cool:
I often find similar looking species in my area that I identify as belonging to the Psathyrella genus.


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Re: Observation made in today's rain. [Re: eris]
    #5459603 - 03/30/06 01:10 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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The stems are gnarled, shiny and reddish.....I have noticed that the predominant color of these mushrooms is RED.....




well no red cap.....no red stem.....no Naematoloma aurantiaca.....see what you mean tho with thoses vinaceous tones tho.......ya amazing the color changes with rain sometimes fading colored mushrooms completely white


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mjshroomer said:
Might be a Psathyrella.

mj




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Re: Observation made in today's rain. [Re: shroominDole]
    #5463782 - 03/31/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

sounds to me like a species Psathyrella.almost certain and as far as subs go its all about habbitat because they look different in each search engine and espescially from ontario to the US deffinately different lookin to me.kinda resembles caerulipes in the psilocybe family but not on your new photos. wheres these shrooms from? and ill try to update a photo of some pan. subs to see the difference!


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