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Abrainspot
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Aquarium heater wattage
#5448288 - 03/27/06 05:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Im going to be making two TIT's, one for incubation, one for fruiting. I found some real cheap heaters, $7.
What watt should i get, both tubs are about 2.5' wide x 1.5' x 2' tall. Im going to use about 2 inches of water each.
100, 200 watt, or would a 50 do it?
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: Abrainspot]
#5448397 - 03/27/06 05:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5448438 - 03/27/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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what the hell. where was that cheap of a heater when i bought one from petsmart?
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: stelthvue]
#5448447 - 03/27/06 05:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Usually heaters that are that cheap are not fully submersible, make sure you get fully submersible or you will have a hell of a time keeping the non submersible end of it out of the water...
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: stelthvue]
#5448449 - 03/27/06 05:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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If they're all that cheap (you didn't metion any price difference) and even if they aren't and the 200W costs $7, go for the highest Wattage you can. You never know if you'll want a bigger tub or whatnot, so it's worth having a beter heater just in case.
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: Solidcell]
#5448467 - 03/27/06 05:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the tip MindsEye
Solidcell- Im a cheap bastard and im figuring that running two 200 watt heaters would raise my electric bill, if two 50watts would do it, then hell, ill do that.
Also, do the heaters automatically shut-off when the water is at the desired temp (like space heaters), or are they constantly on. Because in that case ill just go for the 100-200 watt one
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: Abrainspot]
#5448516 - 03/27/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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They automatically shut off and turn on to keep the temp at what you designate. Although you're talking about $7 heaters, so we can't be too sure about that.
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: Abrainspot]
#5448519 - 03/27/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
a 200w might save a little bit of money because it wont run for as long as lower wattage.
From the energy consumption, there won't be any difference.
If the heater is too weak, you will never reach the desired temperature.
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: Abrainspot]
#5448526 - 03/27/06 06:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah, they shut off, how do you think they keep the tempature at a steady level? get the 200 watts, its only going to go on for like a few minutes at a time.
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200 watt it is then, ill check out the fully-submersible, quality, etc..
Thanks for the info, ppl
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: MindsEye]
#5449618 - 03/27/06 11:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Its not that hard , im using a heater I paid 6 dollars for and just using a heat bomb made with a soda bottle , as far as TiT ,ethod you would want a fully submersible one but if you have the room in your chambers and want to save some money than a heat bomb is effective , ofcoarse im only using a heatbomb because im using a cooler for incubating and have enuff room , after my first grow ill probably get a fully sub heater and go tit
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: TheSatanWthn]
#5450018 - 03/28/06 05:50 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I checked out the Heatbomb, thats a really cool idea. I think im gonna go with that for my incubator. I have an extra cooler layin around, ill use that for incubation and then only have to set up one TIT for an FC. Thanks for the tip.
Im startin my jars tomorrow night, ill be keepin my progress posted in my journal
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: Abrainspot]
#5451720 - 03/28/06 03:27 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dont skimp on the heater, I bought the "i won" remote submersible that magash recommends and I love it, my damn pf jars have been sitting for 20+ days not doing much until I added her and there nearly fully colonized after a few days using the heater.
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: MerchantP]
#5452544 - 03/28/06 06:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ya i checked some out at Walmart today, 200watt for $22. They can easily be used to make a heatbomb. Is that what your are using, or a TIT?
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: Abrainspot]
#5452575 - 03/28/06 07:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you can convince yourself to just get two rubbermaid tubs, a TiT works fuckin' wonders. A heatbomb isn't as efficient. They both work tho. GL with whatever method you choose, and I look forward to checking out your journal.
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: Solidcell]
#5452830 - 03/28/06 08:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks, im gonna start soaking the seed sometime this week, i just gotta make sure the incubator is set. If a heatbomb isnt as effecient then ill just go for the TIT, im just lookin for a cheap way thatll get the job done.
With heaters that say "submersible" on them, does that mean fully submersible or just the bottom half?
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: Abrainspot]
#5452900 - 03/28/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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agreed a heatbomb isnt as efficient. i just made one and split my TiT which was in FC mode so i can have a FC and an Incubation chamber. im having trouble getting my 18 gal rubbermaid up to 84 degrees. i hope it goes up soon. i dont wanna go out and buy another tub lol.
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: stelthvue]
#5453440 - 03/28/06 10:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey stelthvuem, I have the same containers with a 200W heater and I can get mine well over 100 with the heater even set to less (the heat combined with the jars heat i guess). Most people have a low water level only going an inch or two up the side of the inner tub, but I keep my water level about 3.5 inches from the brim of the outter tub, I like the heat to radiate from the sides as well. It's best to have a pump in that scenario (really in any scenario, but it's more neccessary with the way I do it). What is your pump set to and how hot can you get the inside to?
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: Solidcell]
#5453452 - 03/28/06 10:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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oh when i use a TiT i have no problem at all. I just split the two tubs of the TiT into an incubation chamber and fruiting chamber. i made a heatbomb for the single tub incubation chamber but couldnt get the temp up. so i went to target about an hour ago, got another tub, and now have a TiT incubator again as well as my FC.
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Re: Aquarium heater wattage [Re: stelthvue]
#5453593 - 03/28/06 11:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ah I see, I thought you were having temp problems with the TiT. See Jst31, me no lie .
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