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OfflineTheSatanWthn
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crockpot for sterilizing jars ?
    #5445364 - 03/26/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Just wondering if anyone has ever done this , recently seen it mentioned in a guide for an alterante teq. for sterelizing. I dont have a pressure cooker or a steamer I do have a crockpot and a pot ofcoarse. plan on buying a pressure cooker someday when I have the extra cash for itbut what method do you think I should use in the meantime and if anyone has ever used a crockpot please let me know how it works.


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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: TheSatanWthn]
    #5445378 - 03/26/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

haha, not a bad idea, just let it cook all day. I don't see why it wouldn't sterilize grains if you got temps to 150+ and kept them there long enough.

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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: Rahz]
    #5445432 - 03/26/06 09:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i think 150 is too low for sterilization. isnt pasteurization at 180?


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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: stelthvue]
    #5445447 - 03/26/06 10:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I was at goodwill and saw either a crock pot or a rice cooker that had a temp control up to 400 degrees, why wouldnt that work?


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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: MerchantP]
    #5445455 - 03/26/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

400 would work. i wasnt aware crock pots got that hot.


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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: stelthvue]
    #5445498 - 03/26/06 10:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

im not sure about what temps it reaches it has 4 heat setting tho


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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: stelthvue]
    #5445514 - 03/26/06 10:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Even if the crockpot got to 1000 degrees it still wouldn't really be useful to sterilize substrates. Why? Because the water inside the grain will boil at about 212 degrees (at normal atmospheric pressure).

Problem is you need to get the substrate to about 250 degrees WITHOUT boiling off the water and drying the substrate out.

The solution is a PRESSURE COOKER. When water is under pressure the boiling temp goes up. This allows it to get up to about the 250 degrees needed for sterilization.

This is why there is no replacement for a pressure cooker to properly sterilize grains. If you think of one that is feasible let me know.


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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: musher_420]
    #5445530 - 03/26/06 10:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Im not sure how grains were brought into this , I am not using grain , I should have specified , im using bronw rice flour/verm. ... and say the crockpot wont work than what about putting it in a pot with boiling water like ive read about before? thanks


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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: TheSatanWthn]
    #5445575 - 03/26/06 10:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ok well if there is no way around using a pressure cooker than I will have to break down and buy one but I really cant afford what I planned on getting wich is why I dont have one yet , i was gonna use a all american but they are pricey so what about this I am only gonna be doin 12 half pint jars at a time , will this work ?http://www.kmart.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=102557&N=0&Nty=1&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Ntt=pressure%20cooker


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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: TheSatanWthn]
    #5445578 - 03/26/06 10:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Ok sorry. I understand now. I thought you were looking for a PC alternative.

Ok with BRF you can sterilize it by just steaming. The reason I have heard is because it's made for human consumption and is therefore WAY cleaner then say WBS..which is dirty stuff.

If the crockpot gets hot enough I don't see any reason why it wont boil water.

Do you not have a large pot and a stove?


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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: musher_420]
    #5445580 - 03/26/06 10:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yes i have a large pot and stove


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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: TheSatanWthn]
    #5445613 - 03/26/06 11:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Well that's all you need.

strait from the MMGG
Place the jars in a large kitchen pot and add water so that water comes half way up the side of the jars. Bring the water to a slow boil and place the lid on the pot. From the time the water starts to boil, the jars need 1 hour to be sterilized. Water should not be bubbling and splashing all over the place. The jars should not be floating around in the water. The substrate in the culture jars has the right amount of water in it already. You do not want water leaking into the jars and changing the ratio. The jars should not sit flat on the bottom of the pan. Too much heat can transfer directly to the jars and cause a loss of moisture. You can place a wash cloth inside the pan and set the jars directly on the wash cloth to help prevent too much heat from transferring to the jars.

I might even boil 1 1/2 hours to be safe.


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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: musher_420]
    #5445639 - 03/26/06 11:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ok thanks alot , DOES ANYONE KNOW A LINK THAT COULD HELP LEARN HOW TO TAKE PF STYLE JARS AND TRANSFORM THEM TO HORSE POO , CAUSE THE ONE SPONSER SITE SELLS PRE PASTERIZED POO SO i DONT THINK i WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A PRESSURE COOKER AND ITS SUPPOSE TO MAKE THE YEILDS MUCH BETTER...oops must have hit the caps lock


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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: MerchantP]
    #5445700 - 03/26/06 11:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: spacemonster]
    #5445992 - 03/27/06 12:45 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i have used a crock pot to sterilize my pf jars....it worked fine but i left them on for two and half hours though...it was worth it.


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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: cougercruiser]
    #5446177 - 03/27/06 02:58 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

oh my gosh! Fry Daddy tek coming soon. And you thought meth labs were dangerous. :wink:


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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: georgeM]
    #5448768 - 03/27/06 07:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: spacemonster]
    #5448789 - 03/27/06 07:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

You can't heat the WATER INSIDE THE JARS past 212 without having it under pressure. The deep fryer would just dry out the jars if anything.


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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: musher_420]
    #5448811 - 03/27/06 07:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I did popcorn in a big pot of boiling water. and got no contams


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Re: crockpot for sterilizing jars ? [Re: trauma47645]
    #5457824 - 03/30/06 12:09 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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