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fireworks_god
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Psilocybe Cyanescens
#5443642 - 03/26/06 10:01 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I must admit that my friend is becoming very interested in growing psilocybe cyanescens. He's been reading what information he can find on them, and is also interested in the prospect of entering what seems to be the rather uncharted territory of growing them indoors (most threads seem to involve straightening out which cyanescens is being referred to more than anything else ).
He realizes that there isn't much information and that it is rather difficult to grow them sucessfully indoors, and that those who are in an area that they will grow outdoors are much better off simply growing them outdoors.
Nonetheless, after some time gathering every tidbit of information he can and gaining experience with growing simpler strains, my friend would still be interested with experimenting with growing them indoors.
So far, the general overview of the procedure as far as he can tell is to obtain a syringe from Sporeworks, whip up some pf-style jars with the appropriate substrate, and then spawn that to sterilized woodchips. From there, it becomes hazy, but when one is ready to fruit, one can put them into a refridgerator and use some light?
Obviously, that's really sketchy, but is there some sort of crucial step that is being neglected? I've found a grand total of one tek for this that was entirely indoors, and it wasn't exactly explicit. 
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I think you're referring to Panaleous Cyanescens. They're a lot different than Psilocybes, a little trickier to grow too. There's a sub forum with grow logs for the pan cyans...I'd start there 
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/panaeolus
Edited by Newbie (03/26/06 10:11 AM)
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens [Re: Newbie]
#5443790 - 03/26/06 11:08 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i think he knows that it's psil cyan he's referring to: pans don't colonise woodchips, and are pretty much always grown indoors.
psil cyan are fun and tasty, but this is probably the wrong forum.
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See, this is what I mean! 
My friend is definitely interested in growing pans cyans as well, but the prospect of experimenting with psilocybe cyanescens is making his head swim. 
Lovely picture, and if this is in the wrong forum, could someone move it to the right one? I assumed this was the one, as most of the discussion regarding ps cyans i could find was in this one. 
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fireworks_god
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*bump*
Not precisely sure why this was moved to this forum, as it certainly doesn't seem that cultivation of psilocybe cyanescens shouldn't be considered "advanced", not to mention the threads concerning ps cyans that have proliferated in that forum.
Anyways, if anyone in this forum does have some information to share, it'd be appreciated! 
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hi..bro
what kind of help do you need?
indoor or outdoor cult of Psilocybe Cyanescens?
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens [Re: Roadkill]
#5446884 - 03/27/06 10:28 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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My friend is interested in, eventually (after enough experience with mushrooms in general is accumulated) growing psilocybe cyanescens indoors. I've read the tek on the main site that uses a refridgerator, and also the tek that the German dude did, but the information wasn't too explicit.
Basically, my friend wants to know exactly what needs to be done in order to initiate fruiting after the woodchips are colonized. He understands that low temperatures are necessary and a refridgerator is required, but is there anything tha specifically needs to be done to induce fruiting?
As already stated, he also understands that yields wouldn't be anywhere near growing outdoors, but, nevertheless... 
Thanks!
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yeah I had a feeling you wanted to cultivate them indoors.
I have never tried...since I can grow them in my yard. 
sorry I'm not much help on the indoor grow of them.
tc
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens [Re: Roadkill]
#5446910 - 03/27/06 10:37 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Besides temperature i think the only fruiting trigger you would need to worry about would be humidity. Colder weather usually means a lower humidity, so this would mean you would have to emulate it somewhat in your grow enviornment.
A PM to anno might help you answer these questions as well, ive never cultivated psil cyans indoors so im not too much help on this one.
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens [Re: coda]
#5446938 - 03/27/06 10:48 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the quick responses. 
It isn't exactly territory that my friend is quite ready for yet, but he's very enthusiastic at the prospect and the (slim ) possibillity that he can discover some things that would help everyone out.
Not sure if anno would want to be bothered, but I'll see what is going on. 
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I've considered giving this a run aswell. I don't know if I will go through with it though. Funds are low as always.
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens [Re: ClammyJoe]
#5449732 - 03/28/06 12:34 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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guys we hear constantly from newbies that they wish to try and grow psilocybe cyanescens indoors and it is possible, but i would really consider getting myself up on agar work and look at growing them outdoors in winter. Try and get yourself a fruiting isolate - then once youve got that inoculate a jar of millet or whatever which you can use to spawn hardwood chips like alder, beech, hickory, etc. WHen this is colonised, make yourself a bed and keep it moist - fruiting should occur in june. If your going indoors you need to worry about temps, air exchange and humidity. Ps.cyanescens tends to pin on agar and wood quite easily but fruiting will require all three. It isnt done indoors much because its a fickle fruiter - but outdoors they fruit readily - even in Australia:
 On straight beech chips - yumyum!
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens [Re: Zen Peddler]
#5449752 - 03/28/06 12:51 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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what blue said AND !!! there is the fact that thay have to incubate and colonize for like four to six months
you could grow gobs of cubs in that time
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens [Re: Zen Peddler]
#5450342 - 03/28/06 08:41 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
bluemeanie said: If your going indoors you need to worry about temps, air exchange and humidity.
Sounds familiar. 
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It isnt done indoors much because its a fickle fruiter
Fully understood. 
The fact remains that my friend personally resides in Zone 4 and that his house and (what barely passes as a) lawn is situated in a manner that virtually eliminates the possibility of growing psilocybe cyanescens outdoors.
Thus, my friend, who has developed an intense curiousity for these mushrooms and involving himself in their growth, is fully willing to attempt to grow them indoors, fully aware of the nature and reality of the situation. 
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens [Re: Dem_Bones]
#5450347 - 03/28/06 08:42 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Dem_Bones said: what blue said AND !!! there is the fact that thay have to incubate and colonize for like four to six months
Source?
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well. pf style jars won't do much good IMO.
i started with grain. i expanded the mycellium twice using grain to grain transfers and then used a few ziplock freezer bags full of woodchips and mixed the spawn with the woodchips at about 50/50 woodchips to spawn. using micropore tape and a religiously cleaned razor blade, i made very small holes about 1/8 inch long every two inches from the last hole and covered with micropore tape. incubated during the winter indoors at around 71 degrees farenheit and setup a floro light in my mini fridge to keep the temps down between 55-65 degrees farenheit for fruiting. when fruiting i just cut open the bag with a razor blade & fruit in a sterlite container with a clear lid. the wire hanging out of the fridge was a little weird for a while but it payed off in the end.
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Re: Psilocybe Cyanescens [Re: thenewguy05]
#5451490 - 03/28/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for the information! 
I wasn't referring to pf style jars in regards to the substrate itself (I believe I stated "with the appropriate substrate"), just simply referring to the jars themselves, the same procedure.
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. using micropore tape and a religiously cleaned razor blade, i made very small holes about 1/8 inch long every two inches from the last hole and covered with micropore tape.
What were you making holes in?
How long did it take you start to finish? What were your yields like?
Thanks again for the information. 
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