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OfflineExplosiveMango
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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: Lycanthrope]
    #5448523 - 03/27/06 06:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

For everyone who offers harsh, cruel criticism to this person for 'risking salvia becoming illegal'-

YOU ARE PUSSIES!!


This is not the correct approach to unfair denial of personal freedoms by our government. This approach is akin to telling a jew in just-prior-to-Nazi Germany he should hide his religious icons lest they be illegalized. This person may have taken this drug in a less than ideal situation (ok, a far less than ideal situation) but nobody was hurt, and lessons were learned. Your acceptance of the unfair treatment your society gives you only reinforces and encourages this treatment.

If you are seriously worried about the injustices of our government's oppressive rule over our personal chemical consumption SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT!


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: habitat0789]
    #5448579 - 03/27/06 06:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

experienced stoner? that will only get you so far when youre messing with 40x salvia :P

and that most definitely could lead to a ban on salvia... with hallucinogens, the government is not concerned as much with the health of the user but his/her actions in society while on the drug. Salvia like most other psychedelics can make you a wild beast when around others with the potential to mess some things up.


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5448665 - 03/27/06 07:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

ExplosiveMango said:
For everyone who offers harsh, cruel criticism to this person for 'risking salvia becoming illegal'-

YOU ARE PUSSIES!!


This is not the correct approach to unfair denial of personal freedoms by our government. This approach is akin to telling a jew in just-prior-to-Nazi Germany he should hide his religious icons lest they be illegalized. This person may have taken this drug in a less than ideal situation (ok, a far less than ideal situation) but nobody was hurt, and lessons were learned. Your acceptance of the unfair treatment your society gives you only reinforces and encourages this treatment.

If you are seriously worried about the injustices of our government's oppressive rule over our personal chemical consumption SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT!




What a joke.

Think about it...

A child. Using this substance at school to get fucked up.

If thats not abuse, I dont know what is. This is exactly what "they" want.  :rolleyes:

They got to look out for the children you know  :mad:


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5448751 - 03/27/06 07:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

man o man, it know its the truth.. you can move around with salvia and still be there...

funny story man, takes me back to high school..fun carefree funnesss


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5448826 - 03/27/06 07:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

ExplosiveMango said:
For everyone who offers harsh, cruel criticism to this person for 'risking salvia becoming illegal'-

YOU ARE PUSSIES!!


This is not the correct approach to unfair denial of personal freedoms by our government. This approach is akin to telling a jew in just-prior-to-Nazi Germany he should hide his religious icons lest they be illegalized. This person may have taken this drug in a less than ideal situation (ok, a far less than ideal situation) but nobody was hurt, and lessons were learned. Your acceptance of the unfair treatment your society gives you only reinforces and encourages this treatment.

If you are seriously worried about the injustices of our government's oppressive rule over our personal chemical consumption SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT!





Right, our efforts should be towards understanding and legalization, not fearing prohibition



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EquilibriuM said:


What a joke.

Think about it...

A child. Using this substance at school to get fucked up.

If thats not abuse, I dont know what is. This is exactly what "they" want.  :rolleyes:

They got to look out for the children you know  :mad:




Just because he may be younger than you does not mean he is a child, and is using any substance at school different than doing at work or any other place where its not allowed?


But i would not like to smoke salvia at school, maybe if i was on a lunch break or spare.


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5448846 - 03/27/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

EquilibriuM said:
Quote:

ExplosiveMango said:
For everyone who offers harsh, cruel criticism to this person for 'risking salvia becoming illegal'-

YOU ARE PUSSIES!!


This is not the correct approach to unfair denial of personal freedoms by our government. This approach is akin to telling a jew in just-prior-to-Nazi Germany he should hide his religious icons lest they be illegalized. This person may have taken this drug in a less than ideal situation (ok, a far less than ideal situation) but nobody was hurt, and lessons were learned. Your acceptance of the unfair treatment your society gives you only reinforces and encourages this treatment.

If you are seriously worried about the injustices of our government's oppressive rule over our personal chemical consumption SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT!




What a joke.

Think about it...

A child. Using this substance at school to get fucked up.

If thats not abuse, I dont know what is. This is exactly what "they" want.  :rolleyes:

They got to look out for the children you know  :mad:




Alright man, you go ahead and bend over and take it from Bush.
Say "I'm a criminal for using mushrooms, I should be brought to justice for supporting the terrorists"
Say "Please don't take away my last drugs massa, I'll be good and use them where you can't see!"

Yeah. You're right. They do gotta look out for the children.
Maybe they should think about using things like legitimate education?

Your fear hurts us all.

I'm going to continue advocating the individual's right to use, and their right to not be considered criminal for falling victim to drug abuse or addiction. I don't consider inflicting social harm on a person a viable method of protecting them, I'm sorry man.


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: Crowsnose]
    #5448886 - 03/27/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Crowsnose said:
and that most definitely could lead to a ban on salvia... with hallucinogens, the government is not concerned as much with the health of the user but his/her actions in society while on the drug. Salvia like most other psychedelics can make you a wild beast when around others with the potential to mess some things up.




You too, are missing the point.
The point is this- there are a great many thing in life that can be used 'properly' or 'improperly'. A shovel, for example, could cause a great deal of damage if I used it to indiscriminately swing above my head.

This does not however, mean that it is right to make the shovel illegal. Nor does it become right to make the shovel illegal if it is used only by a handful of people in a remote corner of society. However if a few people were seen wildly swinging shovels, an object not entirely familiar to mainstream society, they may be viewed by some as a convenient object to blame problems on. Because mainstream society does not routinely use shovels, they may accept that these shovels, are in fact, a major contributor to violence or property damage at large. You, being aware of how a shovel can be used correctly, will realize how ridiculous this idea is, and how unfair it is for your shovel to be taken away. You may also realize that the fear of shovels draws attention away from the actual causes of these problems.

Please explain to me how psychedelics are ANY different.


I feel it would be more appropriate to teach our children to dig, than to teach them to fear the shovel.


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: Kingkole]
    #5448916 - 03/27/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Kingkole said:
Quote:

ExplosiveMango said:
For everyone who offers harsh, cruel criticism to this person for 'risking salvia becoming illegal'-

YOU ARE PUSSIES!!


This is not the correct approach to unfair denial of personal freedoms by our government. This approach is akin to telling a jew in just-prior-to-Nazi Germany he should hide his religious icons lest they be illegalized. This person may have taken this drug in a less than ideal situation (ok, a far less than ideal situation) but nobody was hurt, and lessons were learned. Your acceptance of the unfair treatment your society gives you only reinforces and encourages this treatment.

If you are seriously worried about the injustices of our government's oppressive rule over our personal chemical consumption SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT!





Right, our efforts should be towards understanding and legalization, not fearing prohibition



Quote:

EquilibriuM said:


What a joke.

Think about it...

A child. Using this substance at school to get fucked up.

If thats not abuse, I dont know what is. This is exactly what "they" want.  :rolleyes:

They got to look out for the children you know  :mad:




Just because he may be younger than you does not mean he is a child, and is using any substance at school different than doing at work or any other place where its not allowed?


But i would not like to smoke salvia at school, maybe if i was on a lunch break or spare.




Come on guy, keep up with me here... In the eyes of the law, he is a child.

And yes it would be similar at work as far as personal responsibility is concerned. But we are talking about the legal system and you know politicians will do anything to "protect the children" they are "doing it for this kids" you know.  :wink:


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5448949 - 03/27/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

ExplosiveMango said:
Alright man, you go ahead and bend over and take it from Bush.
Say "I'm a criminal for using mushrooms, I should be brought to justice for supporting the terrorists"
Say "Please don't take away my last drugs massa, I'll be good and use them where you can't see!"

Yeah. You're right. They do gotta look out for the children.
Maybe they should think about using things like legitimate education?

Your fear hurts us all.

I'm going to continue advocating the individual's right to use, and their right to not be considered criminal for falling victim to drug abuse or addiction. I don't consider inflicting social harm on a person a viable method of protecting them, I'm sorry man.




I'm not a criminal and I'm not afraid of anything. Please stop judging me. I believe in personal responsibility. We should be allowed to put anything into our body that we want, as long as we do it responsibly. Your not a criminal for falling victim to drug addiction. Your just a weak person.

Power plants should be respected and not used to get us fucked up at school or work or whatever. They aren't for us getting fucked up on.

We are very fortunate to have salvia legal. Try not to fuck it up for everybody. Because some people get more out of it then just using it to get fucked up as school and freak out about glitter.  :thumbup:


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5448961 - 03/27/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

EquilibriuM said:
Come on guy, keep up with me here... In the eyes of the law, he is a child.

And yes it would be similar at work as far as personal responsibility is concerned. But we are talking about the legal system and you know politicians will do anything to "protect the children" they are "doing it for this kids" you know.  :wink:




Quite honestly, I am 'keeping up with you'.
You're one of the people who are content to take whatever society feeds you, perpetuate the stereotypes, and criticize the nonconforming.

Just don't kid yourself into thinking you're any better than the legislators outlawing the substance.

I'm still saying the next 'child' should be given the setting and information necessary to responsibly use the drug. Or perhaps salvia should be restricted based on age, like alcohol or tobacco. There is a better solution than demonization.

Situations like this one should be avoided, not retaliated against.



Edit: clearly at this point, we are just wasting public space, if you wish to continue this debate I suggest we use PMs or an alternate thread.


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5448970 - 03/27/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

ExplosiveMango said:
Quote:

EquilibriuM said:
Come on guy, keep up with me here... In the eyes of the law, he is a child.

And yes it would be similar at work as far as personal responsibility is concerned. But we are talking about the legal system and you know politicians will do anything to "protect the children" they are "doing it for this kids" you know.  :wink:




Quite honestly, I am 'keeping up with you'.
You're one of the people who are content to take whatever society feeds you, perpetuate the stereotypes, and criticize the nonconforming.

Just don't kid yourself into thinking you're any better than the legislators outlawing the substance.

I'm still saying the next 'child' should be given the setting and information necessary to responsibly use the drug. Or perhaps salvia should be restricted based on age, like alcohol or tobacco. There is a better solution than demonization.

Situations like this one should be avoided, not retaliated against.



I was not speaking to you in that post. Please refer to the one addressed to you proper. But this statement "You're one of the people who are content to take whatever society feeds you" reaffirms my feeling that you have no idea what I believe or who I am.  :smirk:


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: habitat0789]
    #10266133 - 04/30/09 10:28 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

glitter...in high school.


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: habitat0789]
    #10266165 - 04/30/09 10:35 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

LOL, don't listen to all those assholes saying it was retarded. I mean, it was, but it's fucking hilarious. The psychedelic experience is an adventure, sometimes strange settings are required, especially if you know what you're doing. Kind of like being in a long, serious relationship with the same girl; once you're bored of all the standard sex positions, you just have to find some weirdass ways to make it all interesting.


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: habitat0789]
    #10266200 - 04/30/09 10:42 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

glad the story didn't end with getting caught


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: LedHead]
    #10266268 - 04/30/09 10:55 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

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the stupidest ideas make the best stories.



as long as no one gets hurt



you mean "Especially if someone gets hurt"?


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: WornTraveler]
    #10266537 - 04/30/09 11:55 PM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

WornTraveler said:
The psychedelic experience is an adventure, sometimes strange settings are required, especially if you know what you're doing.




obviously this kid did not know what he was doing.

I'm sorry, but you have to be pretty dumb to choose high school as the setting for your salvia trip.


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #10266639 - 05/01/09 12:16 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

ExplosiveMango said:
For everyone who offers harsh, cruel criticism to this person for 'risking salvia becoming illegal'-

YOU ARE PUSSIES!!


This is not the correct approach to unfair denial of personal freedoms by our government. This approach is akin to telling a jew in just-prior-to-Nazi Germany he should hide his religious icons lest they be illegalized. This person may have taken this drug in a less than ideal situation (ok, a far less than ideal situation) but nobody was hurt, and lessons were learned. Your acceptance of the unfair treatment your society gives you only reinforces and encourages this treatment.

If you are seriously worried about the injustices of our government's oppressive rule over our personal chemical consumption SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT!



Telling a Jew to hide his religious symbol is an excellent idea. At least then he can practice his beliefs in private rather than be unable to practice them at all, or even worse, get killed for it.

If we try to tell state lawmakers that Salvia should be legalized, they'll point to the teenagers getting high off it on YouTube. They'll point to people like the OP who lose touch with reality in school. They'll point to the parents of that stupid Brett kid who insist that Salvia killed him. And then they'll say "We can't let people peddle this dangerous substance to children!" and they'll make Salvia possession a criminal offense.

We're losing the media war. Every story in the media  about Salvia compares the plant to LSD, a Schedule I substance that "everyone knows" causes you to jump out of windows thinking you can fly. If we continue to flaunt our Salvia use in public, it will be made illegal, it will probably disappear from the black market and no one will ever use it again.

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Alright man, you go ahead and bend over and take it from Bush.
Say "I'm a criminal for using mushrooms, I should be brought to justice for supporting the terrorists"
Say "Please don't take away my last drugs massa, I'll be good and use them where you can't see!"



Well guess what? Prohibitionists are in power and we are not. So for now, we have to. According to the law, you ARE a criminal for using mushrooms, and they WILL take the last legal drugs away if we use them irresponsibly. The law may not be just, but it's still the law.


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: inkblot]
    #10267019 - 05/01/09 02:27 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

I did 2ce in school once.  In physics I tried to explain to the teacher how the equations ARE god, maaaaaan.  He thought I was on drugs. :lol:


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: g00ru]
    #10267028 - 05/01/09 02:32 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

WOAH old thread oh well it's a hilarious story.


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Re: Salvia at school,... i dont know what i was thinkin. [Re: g00ru]
    #10267076 - 05/01/09 03:20 AM (14 years, 8 months ago)

Did coke,pills,weed and dope in school but never psychedelics. Just would feel all to wrong


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