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Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil!
#5440520 - 03/25/06 09:44 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: trendal]
#5440689 - 03/25/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: trendal]
#5440713 - 03/25/06 11:23 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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mineral oil would probably be a better bet than cooking oil
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: trendal]
#5440854 - 03/25/06 12:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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hahaha thats awesome
some people come up with the wierdest cooling!
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: trendal]
#5440973 - 03/25/06 12:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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imagine that spilling over your carpet
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: barfightlard]
#5440982 - 03/25/06 01:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's kind of a cop-out
the case is only half-full, and the HDD is sitting on top (because it has moving parts), so it's hardly "silent".
Plus, it would be heavy as fuck, so useless for lans, especially if you had to keep it upright to stop the oil from reaching the moving parts
And, the PSU is still being fan-cooled (or passive-air cooled if they sprang for an expensive fanless CPU).
I think it would be a better build if the whole case, including the PSU, was filled with oil, and there was a watertight enclose inside for the PSU. It would still be heavy, but at least it would be self contained, and easier to move without worrying about keeping it upright.
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: OJK]
#5441282 - 03/25/06 02:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Odiumjunkie said: mineral oil would probably be a better bet than cooking oil
They actually recommend motor oil over the cooking oil, due to the fact that cooking oil (and many other oils) can slowly attack plastic.
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: trendal]
#5441317 - 03/25/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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plus, mineral oil is fully transparent 
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: trendal]
#5441533 - 03/25/06 04:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'd much rather have fans.
I don't see why they didn't put the hard drive in there, though. The moving parts are sealed up tight.
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: supercollider]
#5441863 - 03/25/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The moving parts are sealed up tight.
Not entirely - there is a small opening to allow air pressure to equilize with the outside. It's really quite small, but I suppose some oil could be sucked in if the pressure inside the drive became negative.
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: trendal]
#5442076 - 03/25/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The best bet would be transformer oil. They use that to cool electrical transformers, such as the big canisters you see on some telephone poles.
It has a ludicrously high flash point, and also a very high specific heat (which means it takes a LOT of heat energy to raise it's temperature)
Transformer oil is entirely nonconductive, and is transparent.
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: supercollider]
#5443431 - 03/26/06 07:52 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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To be honest, the biggest appeal of a system like this for me would be the noise factor.
All the high-end PCs I've dealt with have been pretty/very noisy, because people tend to want to spend all their budget on high end components, and not spend more on a fanless CPU, expensive silent CPU cooler and large, low-noise fans.
Plus, I imagine having an air-tight system would extend the life of your components, as dust build up is really not good for electronics (assuming the oil used was suitably inert).
Upgrading would be a real pain in the ass though
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: OJK]
#5444300 - 03/26/06 03:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Odiumjunkie said: To be honest, the biggest appeal of a system like this for me would be the noise factor.
All the high-end PCs I've dealt with have been pretty/very noisy, because people tend to want to spend all their budget on high end components, and not spend more on a fanless CPU, expensive silent CPU cooler and large, low-noise fans.
Plus, I imagine having an air-tight system would extend the life of your components, as dust build up is really not good for electronics (assuming the oil used was suitably inert).
Upgrading would be a real pain in the ass though
Hah, I'd hate to have to upgrade that, you're right.
And, normally you can find somebody who would be willing to buy components you've upgraded past... but I doubt anybody would buy used computer components that were covered in oil
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: trendal]
#5444848 - 03/26/06 06:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Vegetable oils oxidize on storage, making them become rancid and reek as well as slowly resinifying.
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: Asante]
#5444937 - 03/26/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Like I said... use transformer oil.
It works better for the cooling, it doesn't turn rancid, and it LOOKS better anyways, because it's clear... like water is.
The index of refraction is probably a lot more similar to the plexiglass anyways... so the visual distortion might be decreased.
This stuff is MADE for cooling components that are submerged in it. I don't see how something from a grocery store can surpass that.
That there is an improvised setup of 4 microwave transformers that was used for some sort of high voltage project. All submerged in transformer oil. You can see everything very well, even through the plexiglass.
I'm telling you, transformer oil is k3y
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: Konnrade]
#5446453 - 03/27/06 06:49 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I take it that transformer oil is just highly refined mineral oil?
From where would you be likely to be able to purchase a large quantity of cheap transformer oil?
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: OJK]
#5446540 - 03/27/06 07:42 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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> I take it that transformer oil is just highly refined mineral oil?
In the old days, it was polychlorinated biphenyl, a very nasty substance. This is not stuff you want to play around with. Modern day transmformer oil is exactly what you said, a highly refined mineral oil. Be careful with "large quantity" as your eyes may be much, much smaller than the industries. In other words, when you ask for a large quantity, as a distributer, I am going to ask how many thousands of gallons do you need?
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: Seuss]
#5446579 - 03/27/06 08:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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good point
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: OJK]
#5447183 - 03/27/06 12:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I see why they couldn't put the hard drive under oil... the vent holes would leak oil into the drive... oily platters and heads probably do not function properly. Does anybody see a reason why they could not put the power supply under oil? I don't.
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Re: Fanless PC - cooled with cooking oil! [Re: trendal]
#5448618 - 03/27/06 06:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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So... would you have to take the PC in to Jiffy Lube every 20 million bytes?
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