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Avarage PF cake Pin time?
    #5439807 - 03/24/06 10:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

First I want to thank everyone for helping when the information is needed! :thumbup:

This will be my second go, although my 1st try was a success it was not what I expected... however now that I'm a little more experienced at this, maby my next try will yield more!  :grin:

Any way I have seen some people get pins days after they fruit their PF Cake.

My first cakes took way to long (20+ days) and did not produce much. It was after more research and more questions that I found out the problem.

I have done a 24 hour cold "dunk" and did a double end casing on the cake.

****Now my quick question is what is the "average" time to get some pins?
*****And what has been the soonest (record) time for pin development?


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: Slooch] * 1
    #5439839 - 03/24/06 10:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

well after i dunk pins usually form in about 5 days but thats just me i dont know if thats average or what i think i read somewhere 2-5 days after dunking


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: Slooch]
    #5439896 - 03/24/06 10:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The reason your cakes took so long I'm going to guess as soon as they were covered with myc you birthed them. you should let them sit for four days or so after that so the center of the cakes finishes this adds loads of time if the center isn't done.

3 things tell the cake to pin, light, air exchange, lack of nutrients in the substrate. Sure any one of these thing can cause pinning but in most cases it takes all 3. In nature myc colonizes the substrate (usually shit) hits fresh air and light and pins.


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: Magash]
    #5439907 - 03/24/06 11:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Naw, I waited 2 full days after the cakes were fully colonized. The problem was that the cakes were very dry at the bottem. Due to my electric pressure cooker that is very small. It heated the bottem so much that the cakes were dry and had very little moisture.

Its because of that I now dunk my cakes for 24 hours~! Always!


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: Slooch]
    #5442074 - 03/25/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Ok some one else on another thread said theirs took 7 days so we have some where between 5-7 days to see pins

Any one get them to pin sooner?


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? *DELETED* [Re: Slooch]
    #5444175 - 03/26/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: kwikness]
    #5444305 - 03/26/06 03:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

you should try Casing Slooch its better, and easy


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: Dr_Mcgillicuddy]
    #5451511 - 03/28/06 02:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I have done 3 casings and im doing 3 more, just wondering in this post what was the

*** Record time sone one got a cake to pin

***Avrage time cakes pin


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: Magash]
    #6241551 - 11/02/06 09:40 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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3 things tell the cake to pin, light, air exchange, lack of nutrients in the substrate.




this is very interesting, is the first I have read of this....."lack of nutirents is a signal for pinning".....so can I surmise that the nutrients function primarily in myc growth, and you have sort of set the stage for crop health and yield at the strength of your myc, and the nutrients it received?  :gethigh:


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: Tahoe58]
    #6241624 - 11/02/06 10:00 PM (17 years, 2 months ago)

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3 things tell the cake to pin, light, air exchange, lack of nutrients in the substrate.




this is very interesting, is the first I have read of this....."lack of nutirents is a signal for pinning".....so can I surmise that the nutrients function primarily in myc growth, and you have sort of set the stage for crop health and yield at the strength of your myc, and the nutrients it received?  :gethigh:




there's a key word missing there that might clear it up.  a lack of uncolonized nutrients.  full colonization is a pinning trigger.  no more food within reach tells the mycelial network its "job" of eating all it can is done, its time to move on and reproduce (fruit).


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: creamcorn]
    #15217304 - 10/13/11 12:36 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

there's a key word missing there that might clear it up.  a lack of uncolonized nutrients.  full colonization is a pinning trigger.  no more food within reach tells the mycelial network its "job" of eating all it can is done, its time to move on and reproduce (fruit).




well put thank you for that.


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: countchocula420]
    #15217331 - 10/13/11 12:44 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i usually just wait 7 days after full colonization, then dunk n roll and see pins in like 3 days. 5 MAX but 3 average. some jars pin before i even dunk them.


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: kwikness]
    #15217337 - 10/13/11 12:45 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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They can start pinning right in the jars if they get a little light from too much peeking during incubation.           
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You might wanna read some more recent info. We now know that light during incubation can be beneficial to your pinsets, and as such, colonizing jars should be subjected to light.


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: dontkillthedj]
    #15217340 - 10/13/11 12:46 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

how long does the fruiting process take from birthing with pins in jar?


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: countchocula420]
    #15217385 - 10/13/11 12:56 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

well if you dunk, it slows down the mycellium but you can harvest for a few weeks after pins appear.


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: dontkillthedj]
    #15217400 - 10/13/11 01:00 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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well if you dunk, it slows down the mycellium but you can harvest for a few weeks after pins appear.




so after pins appeared in jar i can figure two weeks from birthing?


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: countchocula420]
    #15217409 - 10/13/11 01:01 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

for a few flushes, yeah. my first flush usually lasts like 5 days then like 8 for the next two.


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: countchocula420]
    #15217416 - 10/13/11 01:03 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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well if you dunk, it slows down the mycellium but you can harvest for a few weeks after pins appear.




so after pins appeared in jar i can figure two weeks from birthing?




something like that, i think i say this way to much but there is only one way to find out for sure

do an experiment, receive some data, make a conclusion...elementary school swag


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: Rafiikii]
    #15217490 - 10/13/11 01:34 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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well if you dunk, it slows down the mycellium but you can harvest for a few weeks after pins appear.




so after pins appeared in jar i can figure two weeks from birthing?




something like that, i think i say this way to much but there is only one way to find out for sure

do an experiment, receive some data, make a conclusion...elementary school swag




thats all im trying to do here dude


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Re: Avarage PF cake Pin time? [Re: countchocula420]
    #15217649 - 10/13/11 02:59 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I've read cold dunking and incubation in this post, sheesh

With ms it's a crap shoot, you'll get 100's of  different answers


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