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Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence
#5439078 - 03/24/06 05:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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ARGUMENT FROM WOW (1) ?When I look into the sky and see all the pretty stars, all those galaxies?? (2) Wow. (3) Therefore, God exists.
MORAL ARGUMENT (II) (1) In my younger days I was a cursing, drinking, smoking, gambling, child-molesting, thieving, murdering, bed-wetting bastard. (2) That all changed once I became religious. (3) Therefore, God exists.
ARGUMENT FROM CREATION (1) If evolution is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God exists. (2) Evolution can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable (3) Therefore, God exists.
ARGUMENT FROM FEAR (1) If there is no God then we're all going to die. (2) Therefore, God exists.
ARGUMENT FROM INTELLIGENCE (1) Look, there's really no point in me trying to explain the whole thing to you stupid Atheists -- it's too complicated for you to understand. God exists whether you like it or not. (2) Therefore, God exists.
ARGUMENT FROM UNINTELLIGENCE (1) Okay, I don't pretend to be as intelligent as you guys -- you're obviously very well read. But I read the Bible, and nothing you say can convince me that God does not exist. I feel him in my heart, and you can feel him too, if you'll just ask him into your life. "For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son into the world, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish from the earth." John 3:16. (2) Therefore, God exists.
ARGUMENT FROM GUITAR MASTERY (1) Eric Clapton is God. (2) Therefore, God exists.
ARGUMENT FROM INTERNET AUTHORITY (1) There is a website that successfully argues for the existence of God. (2) Here is the URL. (3) Therefore, God exists.
ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPLETE DEVASTATION (1) A plane crashed killing 143 passengers and crew. (2) But one child survived with only third-degree burns. (3) Therefore, God exists.
ARGUMENT FROM POST-DEATH EXPERIENCE (1) Person X died an Atheist. (2) He now realizes his mistake. (3) Therefore, God exists.
ARGUMENT FROM MASS PRODUCTION (1) Barbie dolls were created. (2) If Barbie dolls were created, then so were trees. (3) Therefore, God exists.
ARGUMENT FROM INFINITE REGRESS (1) Ask Atheists what caused the Big Bang. (2) Regardless of their answer, ask how they know this. (3) Continue process until the Atheist admits he doesn't know the answer to one of your questions. (4) You win! (5) Therefore, God exists.
Meta-Proof (1) This is a proof of God's existence. (2) If the reader finishes reading this proof, the existence of God will be proven to him/her. (3) If the existence of God is proven, then God exists. (4) Therefore, God exists.
ARGUMENT FROM NEUROSCIENCE (1) Scientists say a portion of our brain may be responsible for mystical experiences. (2) Therefore, God exists.
More philosophical proofs
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 Argument from Jiggy (1) People post the word God at the shroomery everyday. (2) Therefore, the word God exists.
For a being that may not exist, it gets a lot of press like in posts here, "Proof of Gods Existance"
During sex, "Oh God..... YES!"
When people get pissed, "God dammit"
When people get suprised, "OH My GOD!"
When people are in danger, "God save me"
When people don't want something to happen or be true "God no it can't be"
When people sneeze, "God Bless You."
When people live in the valley, "like, Oh My God"
Even if it doesn't exist in a weird way it does anyway. 
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ARGUMENT FROM SKORPIVO 1)Skorpivo refutes existence of God 2)In order for God to be refuted, God must first exist 3)Therefore, God exists

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You must have faith that God exists without proof first,
THEN God gives you proof of his existence
Blessed are those who believe and yet have not seen
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: Demotriton]
#5439367 - 03/24/06 07:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You must have faith that God exists without proof first,
THEN God gives you proof of his existence
A fine example of subliminal honesty if I ever saw one.
Blessed are those who believe and yet have not seen
Yes, let's not forget to bless those who've died at the hands of those who "believe and yet have not seen".
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: Demotriton]
#5439555 - 03/24/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Demotriton said: You must have faith that God exists without proof first,
THEN God gives you proof of his existence
Bullshit. I didn't believe in God before taking shrooms, but then God showed himself(or rather itself) to me. Faith came after experience.
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: Silversoul]
#5439571 - 03/24/06 09:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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He can come in many forms I suppose, even as sensory distortions and unbalanced serotonin levels.
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: ClammyJoe]
#5439814 - 03/24/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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i am god, and i exist. so god must exist, is it really that hard? what proof does anyone need beyond ones self?
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: Maitereya]
#5439858 - 03/24/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Maitereya said: i am god, and i exist. so god must exist, is it really that hard? what proof does anyone need beyond ones self?
A.K.A:
ARGUMENT FROM MEGALOMANIA 1)I am God. 2)Therefore, God exists.
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: Silversoul]
#5439874 - 03/24/06 10:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Paradigm said:
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Demotriton said: You must have faith that God exists without proof first,
THEN God gives you proof of his existence
Bullshit. I didn't believe in God before taking shrooms, but then God showed himself(or rather itself) to me. Faith came after experience.
I am sorry Paradigm, I should of said that was one example of how you can find God.
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: Demotriton]
#5439897 - 03/24/06 11:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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SkorpivoMusterion: megalomania? lets see... im assuming that means thick headed or egotistical?
but... hindu thought says that each of us is god, or a part of god, which i think most can agree on. so if we look within ourselves this idea should be as obvious as whether we are boy or girl.
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: Maitereya]
#5439959 - 03/24/06 11:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I didn't intend for that to be taken too seriously. But to clarify, there are certain definitions of "God" that I've explicitly stated I understand and agree with, e.g., archetypal templates of cognitive enlightenment. Although, personally, I'd just drop the "g" word altogether and simply approach it from a scientific, objective basis.
Beyond that, I am definitely an Atheist. I've made a thread comparing Atheism vs Agnosticism some time ago - might be worth your time checking out.
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: knowhereman]
#5440388 - 03/25/06 06:57 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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knowhereman said: If you've ever loved anything you've inherited that from God. And whatever you have loved WAS God. So eat that whether you're hungry or not.

I'm not touching that with my fork until you answer the most intriguing question of all; "Why"?, as in, "Why is whatever one has loved God?". "How is it that love is inherited from God?". etc. etc.
Please, don't act as though you are proposing some amazing thought that must be accepted without elaboration and demonstration. You haven't defined the term "God", you haven't outlined the mechanics responsible for this inheritance from God, you haven't explained how it is that anyone that has been loved is God. Your thought is admist an endless, abymsal, unforgiving sea of unassociated thoughts that do not exist as any sort of observation of reality. 
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I like what Benjamin Franklin said.. "that we got beer, is enough proof, of a loving God" .. 
dang, Now I manifested the desire for beer.. and it is Saturday.. what a life! money money money.. LOL
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: Gomp]
#5440496 - 03/25/06 09:18 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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ARGUMENT FROM UNINTELLIGENCE (1) Okay, I don't pretend to be as intelligent as you guys -- you're obviously very well read. But I read the Bible, and nothing you say can convince me that God does not exist. I feel him in my heart, and you can feel him too, if you'll just ask him into your life. "For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son into the world, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish from the earth." John 3:16. (2) Therefore, God exists.
HAHAHAHA. those were always my favorite!!! Mormons have this passage )forgot which one at the moment) which your supposed to read and God is supposed to "answer" you for his proff of existence. Thus you can never really argue with a mormon because they have personally expeienced God.
Now I do agree somewhat. Most of these people have indeed experienced God, but our egos identify God with our experiences and thus we label it with characteristics and identify it with religion....
But yeah, I guess it depends on what you are refering to, God the popularized Christian omnipotent being or God as in "the label."
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godlessgeeks None of these original arguments were real proof of god, of course. They were brought up to ridicule the ones who believe in a g*d. Don't take this serious  The proof or counter-proof will be brought somedays, perhaps.
Chances are exactly 50/50, as they ever were.
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ARGUMENT FROM PROFUNDITY 1) My personal experience of God has changed me and made me a better person. 2) Therefore, God exists within me.
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SkorpivoMusterion said: ARGUMENT FROM SKORPIVO 1)Skorpivo refutes existence of God 2)In order for God to be refuted, God must first exist 3)Therefore, God exists

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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: fireworks_god]
#5442664 - 03/25/06 11:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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knowhereman said: If you've ever loved anything you've inherited that from God. And whatever you have loved WAS God. So eat that whether you're hungry or not.

I'm not touching that with my fork until you answer the most intriguing question of all; "Why"?, as in, "Why is whatever one has loved God?". "How is it that love is inherited from God?". etc. etc.
Please, don't act as though you are proposing some amazing thought that must be accepted without elaboration and demonstration. You haven't defined the term "God", you haven't outlined the mechanics responsible for this inheritance from God, you haven't explained how it is that anyone that has been loved is God. Your thought is admist an endless, abymsal, unforgiving sea of unassociated thoughts that do not exist as any sort of observation of reality. 
 Peace.
True, that thought is too abstract for anyone that isnt me to really follow along with. Also it came entirely from my own beliefs, so really its just there to be compared with your own beliefs and be agreed with or not.
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it's important to define god as the personal, omnipotent creator of the abrahamic religions.
that is the 'god' in which athiests opt not to believe. many people understand god to be something else. my personal opinion on the matter is that 'god' means the personal creator figure. the tao, or the dharma, or ultimate reality, or whatever you wish to call whatever it is, is not 'god' and should not be called 'god'. a god is a personal figure.
i find belief in the abrahamic god to be ludicrous. here we have a completely unnecessary belief for which there is no evidence. there is nothing to support the notion that god exists, and the existance of god is not required to explain anything in this world. how can one believe in such a thing? why? because you need your imaginary friend to be the biggest badass in the universe? come on... it's ridiculous.
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: wilshire]
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The problem with your assertion is that even within the Abrahamic tradition there has long been disagreement about the nature of God. The Gnostic Christians, for instance, have a transcendent view of God which is very much aligned with the ultimate reality view. Same with the Sufi Muslims. Even in Judaism, the Kaballah tradition has a very sophisticated and mystical understanding of God.
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Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence
But proof denies faith, and without faith, God is nothing. You've proven God exists, and so therefore, he doesn't. QED
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: wilshire]
#5444840 - 03/26/06 06:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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wilshire said: it's important to define god as the personal, omnipotent creator of the abrahamic religions.
that is the 'god' in which athiests opt not to believe. many people understand god to be something else. my personal opinion on the matter is that 'god' means the personal creator figure. the tao, or the dharma, or ultimate reality, or whatever you wish to call whatever it is, is not 'god' and should not be called 'god'. a god is a personal figure.
i find belief in the abrahamic god to be ludicrous. here we have a completely unnecessary belief for which there is no evidence. there is nothing to support the notion that god exists, and the existance of god is not required to explain anything in this world. how can one believe in such a thing? why? because you need your imaginary friend to be the biggest badass in the universe? come on... it's ridiculous.
in hinduism God has a personal aspect and an impersonal aspect, he (it) is both the impersonal ultimate reality and the entirely personal "I" ever standing before you.
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: Diploid]
#5444841 - 03/26/06 06:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Diploid said: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence
But proof denies faith, and without faith, God is nothing. You've proven God exists, and so therefore, he doesn't. QED
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: Diploid]
#5444858 - 03/26/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Diploid said: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence
But proof denies faith, and without faith, God is nothing. You've proven God exists, and so therefore, he doesn't. QED
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: Demotriton]
#5444966 - 03/26/06 07:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Our faith is faith in someone else's faith, and in the greatest matters this is most the case.
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: spud]
#5446493 - 03/27/06 07:04 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I believe the image of "God" as a singular person, place or thing is WRONG.
God is everything You, me the computer I'm typing on....everything that has energy is God.
We have evolved ourself into the forms we have today. We are the masters of our own destiny. Giving control of your life to an imaginary "God figure" is wrong.
Accept responsibility for the world you have created for yourself.
If you have a lot of stress or difficulties in your life....make the proper changes to correct the problem. Wishing(praying) for Gods help in managing your life is a waste of time.
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: niteowl]
#5446608 - 03/27/06 08:18 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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believing in a singular god to me feels wrong. even thinking to the bible and the ten commandments saying not to "put any gods before me". this gives reason to say that there is more than one god, but he is selfish and wants all the credit for everything. a god like that is nothing to believe in.
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: niteowl]
#5446911 - 03/27/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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God is everything You, me the computer I'm typing on....everything that has energy is God.
i call that "the universe".
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: niteowl]
#5447074 - 03/27/06 11:22 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Indeed, God is immanent-transcendent.
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: Silversoul]
#5448167 - 03/27/06 04:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Paradigm said:
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Demotriton said: You must have faith that God exists without proof first,
THEN God gives you proof of his existence
Bullshit. I didn't believe in God before taking shrooms, but then God showed himself(or rather itself) to me. Faith came after experience.
You Gnostic, you
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Re: Three Hundred Proofs of God's Existence [Re: wilshire]
#5448184 - 03/27/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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wilshire said: God is everything You, me the computer I'm typing on....everything that has energy is God.
i call that "the universe".
I call that Pantheism (Greek: Pan=All; theism, from theo=God)
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