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30mg 4-aCo-MiPT and Salvia Divinorum
    #5437701 - 03/24/06 09:37 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I spoke the language of the wild beast.

2hrs into my journey i got the message it was time to speak with the green lady; one puff of 9x and I hear laughter.  It sounds like an old southern black woman, I roll with it and listen a little closer.  My brain is spewing up baby talk, I?m on a train, my face is turning inside out and negativity from deep down inside of me is being released.  I feel the world and everything within its pain.  Somehow it feels good, its what I needed it hear, its what I?ve been needing to feel for a long time.  I feel the pain my parents went through when I screwed up.  I flash back to two years ago when I met Sally before the fire, I remembered an old woman?s hand stopping me from falling into the fire, I think it may happen again.  The smoke is taking my darkness and neutralizing it.  My dogs are making strange chewy, smacking sounds.  The owls are whispering about me amoungst themselves.  I realize I?ve been in a trance, muttering incoherent babbletybook that only makes sense to the non-humans.  For better or worse I completely let go knowing I will come back in one piece.  I?m absorbing the goodness and discarding the old thought patterns and the evil within me that?s no longer welcome.

  My dog has cancer, I told her I would make an attempt to pull that last mutated cell from her body.  I smoke my spliff, this one?s for you Rosie.  This one?s for you Jesus, bamn!  The logs of the fire roll apart sending up sparks and it begins to snow, he is happy with my offering  :heart: The owls tell me I have smoked enough MJ for the night and should give the roach to the fire spirit, that the roach holds our personal sickness that was attatched tonight and I gladly toss it in the fire.  The last of the evil is neutralized for now.  I ask my dog, ?did I do my best today??

  I can hear the grateful dead as if they were playing just for me ? ?night comes so quiet its close on the heels of the day??  the fire is still looking as though it may lift off the ground at any moment.

4-aco-mipt seems to be a healthy step in the tryptamine eveloution, almost like mushrooms from the future.  Sally, outdoors, around a fire is the ultimate festival, together they make me well.  That was the deepest I?ve ever been, its been close to a year since I?ve been able to bounce ideas off myself like that ? it was good to be aware of the ghosts, both friendly and foe.


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Re: 30mg 4-aCo-MiPT and Salvia Divinorum [Re: schmutzen]
    #5437861 - 03/24/06 10:46 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'd love to hear more of your opinion on the mipt... The -OH form is just so similar to psilocin (one -CH3 => -CH(CH3)2) that I can't help but think that they'd be virtually indistinguishable. How were the visual aspects? Mental? Timeline? Bodyload?


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Re: 30mg 4-aCo-MiPT and Salvia Divinorum [Re: Mezcal]
    #5449249 - 03/27/06 10:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hey, sorry i'm on a physical vacation at the moment.  wiht .55 min internet

visuals - eyes closed was were matrixes of flowers opening and closing, eyes open, the fire looked like villages and people, and around the fire slithered alligators.

sound was incredible...

mental - lucid in my opinion.  it really sneaks up, very similar to a prolonged smoked n,n DMT session.  the spirits told me to be proud  :grin:

bodyload - none.  I felt freakin' fantastic like I'd eaten oxycodones and ecstasy.  possibly small direutic (lots of peeing) at the tail end.

timeline, hmmm. came on fast.  peaked at 2hrs, and not sure when it started to taper.  ate at 10pm, woke at 9am with beutiful afterglow.  no clocks, i was camping.


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Re: 30mg 4-aCo-MiPT and Salvia Divinorum [Re: schmutzen]
    #5450475 - 03/28/06 09:32 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for that. AFOAF was actually looking for info on this chemical but it seems very hard to find.
How would you comapare 30mg 4-AcO-MiPT to an eighth of mushrooms?


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Re: 30mg 4-aCo-MiPT and Salvia Divinorum [Re: schmutzen]
    #5468269 - 04/01/06 05:16 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

i love 4 aco mipt :smile:


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Re: 30mg 4-aCo-MiPT and Salvia Divinorum [Re: abrad84]
    #5474301 - 04/03/06 11:52 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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abrad said: How would you comapare 30mg 4-AcO-MiPT to an eighth of mushrooms?




That question is burning in my mind too. Two grams of shrooms is the most i've eaten, and i have yet to shroom while camping with my dogs as far as setting goes. The 4-aco comes in waves and having smoked Salvia D. at the peak really changed the flavour of the whole experience, but... depending on your growing conditions i believe an 1/8 of mushrooms in the right setting would still be a much 'heavier' trip. I think there is a certain character which the mushrooms do not have, but it will take some time for me to put my finger on it.

another note: I dosed at my regular bedtime, and was able to grab about four hours of sleep at what I think was six hours after dropping.


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Re: 30mg 4-aCo-MiPT and Salvia Divinorum [Re: schmutzen]
    #5480756 - 04/04/06 09:30 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

It's interesting that the 4-aco-MipT would come in waves, as that's a more typical characteristic of phenethylamines. What was your dosage? I've found that 25mg of 4-HO-DipT is do-able, buy alot of my friends swear by the ego-erasing qualities of the 40-50mg dose. What I'm worried about with that is the stomach cramps, heart palpitations, tenseness, etc... I personally hate body load while tripping, so if you did a high dosage of this without negative effects, I'd probably make 4-aco-MipT the next tryptamine I try.


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Re: 30mg 4-aCo-MiPT and Salvia Divinorum [Re: Radioethiopia]
    #5481813 - 04/05/06 07:22 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

The waves i'm referring to are when i think the lesson is over only to get another 'surge' flow through me.

i see no reason to go above 30, as i've found what i what was looking for as low as 10.  Others claim to have gone to 60 with temperature fluctations being the only physical 'problems.'  I must admit there was a brief moment that i would have liked to crawl into the fetal position, but it quickly passed.

It does lack the stomach cramps and tighness i experienced with 4-ho-DiPT (if that's truely what that sample was).  Next to 4-aco-det, i feel this to be one of the most 'sacred' synthetics available.  Enjoy :rasta:


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Re: 30mg 4-aCo-MiPT and Salvia Divinorum [Re: schmutzen]
    #5481817 - 04/05/06 07:27 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Would you say ~10mg is the threhold dose for this compound? SWIM has only ventured up to 5 so far (he always starts low) with no effect.


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Re: 30mg 4-aCo-MiPT and Salvia Divinorum [Re: abrad84]
    #5481972 - 04/05/06 08:39 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Oh, the dosage was in the title of the thread...duh.


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Re: 30mg 4-aCo-MiPT and Salvia Divinorum [Re: abrad84]
    #5482430 - 04/05/06 11:13 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Would you say ~10mg is the threhold dose for this compound? SWIM has only ventured up to 5 so far (he always starts low) with no effect.




My wife and i actually had intense effects at 10mg. A mellow thunderstorm was hanging out directly over the top of our house for half an hour which brought us up to at least a +3.5 Later I dosed a friend with 10mg at a show, he said he felt a little something :shrugs shoulders


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Re: 30mg 4-aCo-MiPT and Salvia Divinorum [Re: schmutzen]
    #5482627 - 04/05/06 12:09 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Strange and interesting how set and setting effects the strength of a given experience.


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Re: 30mg 4-aCo-MiPT and Salvia Divinorum [Re: abrad84]
    #5487606 - 04/06/06 07:56 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I've found that "comparing notes" with a tripping companion can often hike things up an extra level.


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