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Offline_JJ_
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Please tell me these are pan subbs!! :D
    #543355 - 02/07/02 05:46 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Found some big shrooms in some mulch today. Any idea on ID? Here they are:


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Re: Please tell me these are pan subbs!! :D [Re: _JJ_]
    #543444 - 02/07/02 08:06 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

After having a look at a few posts I understand that subbs don't bruise blue. Are they our friendly magical buddies or am I mistaken? Here's another pic (this is after I washed them to get rid of the dirt etc):

Edited by _JJ_ (02/07/02 08:07 AM)

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Re: Please tell me these are pan subbs!! :D [Re: _JJ_]
    #543464 - 02/07/02 08:49 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Me thinks not. Probably some other Panaeolus but not subbs.

Peace,
MAIA


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Re: Please tell me these are pan subbs!! :D [Re: MAIA]
    #543532 - 02/07/02 10:00 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

I'm fairly sure they aren't pan subbs.Take a spore print.It should be black.Don't go by the color of the gills,just the print.
Pan subbs will sometimes bruise blue at the stem base, and in the attached mycelium.They are normally found in manured areas,or decomposing straw(hay,wheatstraw),not (wood)mulch,although I've heard of 'em being in wood mulch,but there was probably manure under or near it.Horse stables ae supposedly a good place to look for pan subbs,and they prefer warm weather.
Don't give up though,keep on hunting.

doo


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Re: Please tell me these are pan subbs!! :D [Re: _JJ_]
    #543547 - 02/07/02 10:08 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

They look like some kind of lepiota species to me, but I could be wrong. They are definitely not pan subbs though.

DH

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Re: Please tell me these are pan subbs!! :D [Re: doo]
    #543586 - 02/07/02 10:29 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks guys.. O well no matter :smile: Hmm I'm in NSW, Australia by the way and I understand that the mushie season here (for the woodlovers that is) starts in autumn. Can anyone tell me what species in particular I should look out for in and around national park areas - mulch and all that? What type of weather in the preceding 2 or 3 days should I wait for? Temperatures? Cheers :laugh:

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Re: Please tell me these are pan subbs!! :D [Re: _JJ_]
    #543664 - 02/07/02 12:05 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

They are not Panaeolus subbalteatus but they do resemple Agaricus brunescens, an edible variety inthe fields.

HOwever, your specimens look a little agesd.

Mj

keep liooking. Eventually you will find something sooner or later it is bound to happen when you are least expeciting.

Mj

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Re: Please tell me these are pan subbs!! :D [Re: mjshroomer]
    #543678 - 02/07/02 12:21 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

MJ beat me to it, but my guess is also agricus..should be edible, and sporeprint will be real dark, and lots of it.

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Re: Please tell me these are pan subbs!! :D [Re: SThomas]
    #543948 - 02/07/02 04:28 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, what they said. They're some type of agaricus. Pan subb. are smaller and much less "fat". Pan subbs are a skinny mushroom and really look nothing at all like the mushrooms you found :\ I sugest you search some of the older posts for pics of pan subbs, LizardKing, GG, and my self posted a lot of pics of them last summer.

Better luck next time man!

Peace out,
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Re: Please tell me these are pan subbs!! :D [Re: _JJ_]
    #544228 - 02/07/02 09:05 PM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Nice mushies

Those are real big in size,

Very ragged looking

I wouldnt bother much with researching them,
Move on and look for something else.

Those are fakes,
Keep looking until you find magic.

Keep shroomin
GGreatOne

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Re: Please tell me these are pan subbs!! :D [Re: mjshroomer]
    #546516 - 02/10/02 10:36 AM (22 years, 1 month ago)

Be careful-there are a few poisonous species within the genus Agaricus that look identical to the edible species. The gills have a phenol smell to them, but not always.

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