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Offlinefuzygrowth
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Moving to canada........ canadians help me out
    #5434732 - 03/23/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

hey... a buddy and i are moving, to where i don't know. Even if he doesn't come I'M still moving. I wanna move to canada so bad. How hard would it be to just move up there with a few grand and get an apt and a job??? I'm thinking toronto area, bc would be great but it's so out there that it's not possible for me. How hard is it to get a job "under the table" untill i get any documents i need to work legaly. Don't tell me to take the citizen ship test cuz i failed, got 48 and i need a 67 at least. Any help would be awsome. If you on the chat hit me up at cult as Chain, thanks guys


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: fuzygrowth]
    #5435005 - 03/23/06 03:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

We have enough illegal immigrants. Thanks anyway.


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: fuzygrowth]
    #5435023 - 03/23/06 04:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Live on the streets and rob the locals.


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: fuzygrowth]
    #5435025 - 03/23/06 04:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

beg for loonies in tourist areas


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5435029 - 03/23/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Wow, you guys are all being incredibly helpful in response to a serious thread  :rolleyes:

Chain, if I knew anything about Canada I'd help ya man...maybe PM blinkidiot or bom on IRC and ask them?


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #5435030 - 03/23/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

HellaMeister said:
Live on the streets and harrass the locals for spare change and cigarettes at every possible opportunity.




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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: Liz]
    #5435034 - 03/23/06 04:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The guy can't even pass the citizenship test and wants to work under the table.

Get your shit sorted out before you move to a new country.


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: Liz]
    #5435036 - 03/23/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Wow, you guys are all being incredibly helpful in response to a serious thread  :rolleyes:





Say what you will, begging for loonies in tourist areas in Canada seriously works.


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: Liz]
    #5435037 - 03/23/06 04:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Liz said:
Wow, you guys are all being incredibly helpful in response to a serious thread  :rolleyes:

Chain, if I knew anything about Canada I'd help ya man...maybe PM blinkidiot or bom on IRC and ask them?




He's asking how he can illegally get into the country and start taking tax dollars away from the rest of us without paying tax himself.

Do you really expect us to help him?

If he wants to move to Canada, he should do the work that it takes to immigrate here. Not start his stay off as a leech.


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: trendal]
    #5435041 - 03/23/06 04:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hey, that's just how Americans roll.


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
    #5435045 - 03/23/06 04:13 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, we rough shit off :thumbup:


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: trendal]
    #5435049 - 03/23/06 04:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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trendal said:
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Liz said:
Wow, you guys are all being incredibly helpful in response to a serious thread  :rolleyes:

Chain, if I knew anything about Canada I'd help ya man...maybe PM blinkidiot or bom on IRC and ask them?




He's asking how he can illegally get into the country and start taking tax dollars away from the rest of us without paying tax himself.

Do you really expect us to help him?

If he wants to move to Canada, he should do the work that it takes to immigrate here. Not start his stay off as a leech.





We are on the exact same page, friend.


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #5435057 - 03/23/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

OK OK, you caught her.

She's just trying to herd the lazy Americans off into Canada.


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: fuzygrowth]
    #5435080 - 03/23/06 04:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Work harder on being able to pass the test then move out to BC.


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: Irradiated_Feces]
    #5435092 - 03/23/06 04:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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trendal said:
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Liz said:
Wow, you guys are all being incredibly helpful in response to a serious thread  :rolleyes:

Chain, if I knew anything about Canada I'd help ya man...maybe PM blinkidiot or bom on IRC and ask them?




He's asking how he can illegally get into the country and start taking tax dollars away from the rest of us without paying tax himself.

Do you really expect us to help him?

If he wants to move to Canada, he should do the work that it takes to immigrate here. Not start his stay off as a leech.





We are on the exact same page, friend.




Same.

Not to mention realistically, you need a lot more then a couple grand to live in Toronto, the cost of the living is rediculous, your looking at paying close to $800/month to rent a really really shitty apartment in like regent park, any place where you won't get mugged is $1000-$2000/month.  I can't think of many places you could work under the table either, like do you have any skills? What kind of work do you expect to do?


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: Gillette]
    #5435094 - 03/23/06 04:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I hear he's a professional burger flipper.


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: fuzygrowth]
    #5435110 - 03/23/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'm going to have to agree with the general concensus.  If you want to come to Canada can get a job and live here happily, you're going to have to get legal citizenship, a real job and pay taxes like the rest of us.

Canada is a great and beautiful country, and there are many opportunites here.  There was a point in time where I wanted to go live in the US, but they wouldn't let me because I didn't have dual citizenship, I was not a student and I wasn't a private business owner bringing my work into the economy.  I could have applied for citizenship, but I didn't because I was LAZY and obviously didn't want it that badly.

If you really want to come to Canada and take advantage of this seemingly endless expanse of land, cities and diveristy, go take that test again.  Study harder.  Show that you actually want this, because there are millions of other people out there who actually need to get into this country to support thier families and escape war, famine and poverty.

I don't feel sorry for you.  :shrug:


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: CherryBom]
    #5435129 - 03/23/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Eh, I guess after thinking about it in terms of cheating taxes and whatnot, yeah, why would you guys want to help him.  I guess that if he really wants to do it, he can do it right....or just wing it on his own :shrug:  I don't see it as such a big deal though, since it sounds like he just wants an under the table job as a temporary solution til his paperwork is in order. 

Realistically, I'm sure that plenty of our ancestors and relatives came over to North America illegaly and figured shit out from there.  But I understand your sentimients.


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: Liz]
    #5435186 - 03/23/06 05:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

you guys must not know what test i'm refering to. it is not a test you can study for. It is basically a bunch of questions that decide of you qualify for a certain type of citizen ship. If it was a matter of studying it would never be an issue. The "test" gives you points based on things like if you have any family in canada or how well you speak english/french. things of that nature. Here is a link

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/assess/Education.asp

I do not have any plans of mooching off of anyone. I was planning on moving there and extablishing a life. I like canadians and what i believe is the canadian way of life. I don't plan to always be an "illegal" but i also may not have the chance to do it properly from the get go. i may not have a place to live very soon.

I was only thinking of toronto because it is pretty close to where i am in comparison to BC, i'm willing to take suggestions from anyone.

I'm actually very surprised with these replies. the shroomery has been so good to me and others over the years. maybe i'm not cool because i don't post enough. For anyone that can pass me some info, thanks


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: fuzygrowth]
    #5435243 - 03/23/06 05:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Move to Quebec. They love people angliphones.


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: fuzygrowth]
    #5435257 - 03/23/06 05:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

You could learn French.


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: fuzygrowth]
    #5435263 - 03/23/06 05:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It's really not a matter of you not being 'cool' because you dont post enough. I'm sure that you're a decent human being and apparently you have good enough intentions...

Blink has a great suggestion! Learn french! Why don't you apply for school up here? You can come over on a student visa, get a job and apply for citizenship later if you love it. There are some solutions, but I don't think sneaking over here, working illigally and hoping for the best is going to work out for you.

If you're serious about this, do it right.


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: fuzygrowth]
    #5435289 - 03/23/06 05:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Stay away from Toronto. It'll suck your savings dryer than a wino with a bottle.


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: fuzygrowth]
    #5435294 - 03/23/06 05:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ok so I took the test, as tho I had no arranged employment in Canada and had generally never been, but as myself obviously,

Factor Maximum
Points Your
Score
1 Education 25 22
2 Language Ability 24 20
3 Work Experience 21 21
4 Age 10 10
5 Arranged Employment 10 0
6 Adaptability 10 5
Total Score 100 78


Pass Mark

The pass mark as of September 18, 2003 is 67.


I have a lower score only because I assumed I was without a planned job or spouse, which is the situation I assume that you are in.

There is no way for you to obviously pass that test now without lying. Its very very basic all it asks is that you be educated, speak english and/or french and have had a job before, IMHO I think those are totally acceptable prerequisites to live in a counrty....so I'm not sure why you failed...

As well I offered advice about living in Toronto, its expensive and you need to have skills to live and work here. If you want to work under the table, your gonna have to have some sort of useful skill or be willing to clean houses and even then you'd have to find a network of people that pay under the table, which isn't going to be easy, its not like the advertise that they do it.

Really, I'd say do some research, look into some of the organizations we have in place to help newly landed immigrants and figure out what is holding you back from passing that test....


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Re: Moving to canada........ canadians help me out [Re: trendal]
    #5435362 - 03/23/06 05:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

trendal said:
Quote:

Liz said:
Wow, you guys are all being incredibly helpful in response to a serious thread  :rolleyes:

Chain, if I knew anything about Canada I'd help ya man...maybe PM blinkidiot or bom on IRC and ask them?




He's asking how he can illegally get into the country and start taking tax dollars away from the rest of us without paying tax himself.

Do you really expect us to help him?

If he wants to move to Canada, he should do the work that it takes to immigrate here. Not start his stay off as a leech.




i couldnt agree more. and well said.


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