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JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!!
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Hi! Well, you probably think after reading this title: "this guy took a truckload of shroomies, got in an in-trip argument & went berserk..." Well: not quite...

Me & this guy were good friends for years, and I mean: GOOD friends!!! We did all our Trips together, mostly on shrooms & 29 in a row, and before that we were the backbone of "The Brotherhood o/t Broad Rollingpaper": we'd like come together EVERY evening from 19:30-22:00 or so & have a monster of a good time with good conversations & about 1/5 of a gramme of Ganja each.
Them years constituted one of my very best of friendships to this date.

So when the Majors came along, and him being flat broke most of the time, it was only natural I'd loan him the money he needed for his side of our experiments, amounting about to a total of $250.
Wouldn't anyone do this to help out a really great friend?

We did a lot of triptalkin', had tremendous insights & even got rid of some emotional garbage from the past. It was so great to embark with this good friend on a quest for the meaning of Life & the Universe, and mostly it was great fun too.

But then, one night, he had this HUGE mental explosion, which I can only identify as a sort of flashback cosidering how he described it. But he, being horny for Miracles, thought that GOD HIMSELF had slipped him a notice.
If he had called, I'd immediatly would've been there for him, even if I had to run naked aross town to get to him, for this was one of the vows we made to eachother: To REALLY BE THERE for eachother in times of need.
Well: he didn't...

Days later I got a Postcard depicting an angrylooking man screaming: I QUIT !!!
Well: went to him, ofcourse... We had this talk and he told me God has called him and that he'll never touch anything Psychotropic ever again. Fine by me...
"I'll take those 38 microdots of LSD you held in keeping with me then" I reasonably suggested since I'd paid for them and he had promised to return them if he had no use for them. So I inquired about the total sum of $ 250 I had loaned him, making his Psychedelic years possible.
"I won't pay for something I don't want in my life!" he exlaimed angryly.
Later I called him to check up on him & about those microdots. It became an argument. "Return my dots that you no longer need as you promised!" I argued, "Or I'll cease to be your friend 'cause this's really uncool!"
He thought about it. One, two seconds at most.
"Well: our friendship's over then." he calmly said; I hung up thunderstricken.

Two years later I slipped him a birthday card inquiring how his life was going. I found out he'd joined the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-Day Saints and became a Mormon.
We wrote back & forth for a time, two odd Americans came to my house to talk about their views on Jesus & to give me the Book of Mormon. I accepted & read most of it, being curious what he now believed & being religious (Wiccan) myself. After some writing we decided to meet @ myplace.

He wore these really neat clothes while he in his tripping years, well: didn't. I thought: hmm.. that's an improvement. Has he bettered himself?
We talked & talked...
I disovered my friend of old wasn't there anymore: he was like this talking Book of Mormon, everything completely conformistic & his very identity erased to the point of being practically identical to those two American oddballs he had sent to me.
No I don't have a bone to pick with Christianity. If you think you're better off by swapping LSD for LDS then by all means: Go Ahead !!!

But then I brought the subject of those microdots up. His reply: "I don't have 'em any more. I gave them away but now I regret that since Psychedelics and all they evoke in you is nothing short of Pure Evil & the Devil's Work." Then came this lecture that even now makes me sick to my stomach. Everytime one of us said words like "Jesus, Heaven, God, Mormon" he'd get this fleeting expression on his face that looked he was getting some head right then & there.
My friend wasn't there: What was left of him was only what LDS allowed.

Then I said: "Taking those dots & my money kinda strikes me as theft, howbout that one?" He should have seen it coming. If he'd had any sense he would've noticed the Cheyenne Mountain of my indignation had all closed up & I've shot to DEFCON 2 all at once. If he weren't so stoned on LDS he'd surely notice all my bases were on full alert, I had flushed anything Stealth, Air Force One was up in the stratosphere and that all my silos were open & everything Nuclear was armed and set on highest yield selection. He really should've noticed all my submarines were closing in on him. My face being as red as a Habanero pepper & equally hot should've given that one away...
But he didn't notice, or maybe even didn't care.

He said: "The Lord Jesus Christ is my Savior, and I'm a Mormon priest now. If I had ever done anything wrong: My Lord has washed away all of my sins & I'm clean as a fish in the eyes of the Lord. You can't blame me for anything as I stand clean before God."
Right then & there this laid-back Hippie type I am just yearned for his blood to be all over me. I wanted to gauge his eyes out & eat for a snack. I was ready to tear his throat out with my bare teeth and use him for a trampoline.
But I didn't.
Instead I caustically replied: "Well I've got news for you then: Jesus is not some slut you can abuse whenever an excuse is needed....."
Well: he got pretty angry in a very Christian sort of way!
"You're bound for Hell with that tripping of yours and you'll burn for all eternity for being a homo !!!"
Nice to know sensitive things said during the perils of a difficult trip can be hurled at you like a handgranade when one's cross with you.
Needless to say he was out the door without even touching the ground.

A few days later I got a letter. It didn't hold any personal content, it was simply 4 sheets of quotes throwing everything hateful the Bible & the book of Moron could be interpreted to be saying about homosexuality.
I actually felt relieved! Our coming apart had been a gaping wound in my soul, and now he had managed to sear it shut.
I'll never miss him again.


Well: that's the story! Did you have friendships with Trip people gone sour on you? A remark perhaps or any comment? PLEASE POST IT !!!


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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: Asante]
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A whole 1/5 of a gram? Yeesh! j/k.

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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: Asante]
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If he'd had any sense he would've noticed the Cheyenne Mountain of my indignation had all closed up & I've shot to DEFCON 2 all at once. If he weren't so stoned on LDS he'd surely notice all my bases were on full alert, I had flushed anything Stealth, Air Force One was up in the stratosphere and that all my silos were open & everything Nuclear was armed and set on highest yield selection. He really should've noticed all my submarines were closing in on him.

>> What the fuck is up with this retarded shit? Go write a novel or something you fruity little faggot.


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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: Asante]
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Interesting read


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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: pharmacopeia]
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You need to get a life.


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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: Asante]
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Definately an interesting read. It's never fun to see a friend (especially a best friend) change so much that you can no longer even think about being friends anymore. To see it happen all at once like you did? It must have sucked.


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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: Asante]
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Thats really sad - sorry dude .


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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: Asante]
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Hey thats your friend you shouldn't give up on him like that, wait awhile call him up and tell him you'd like to talk to him about JESUS and when he comes over muse him for a while then convert his judgmental ass back Leary style. thats what i'd do psyko

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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: Anonymous]
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I don't care who he is, 250$ is 250$. Kick his panzy ass and show him who's god.

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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: Food]
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I have a cousin who's parents got divorced when I was young and his mom was mormon, and his dad (my very cool uncle) was lutheran. Well over the years his mom turned him onto the LDS. Well eventually she taught him to hate everyting about his dad, who would do anything in the world for him, and now he is in Brazil on a mission. When he writes me letters he address them "Brother Matthew". I swear that the mormon religion is the most successful cult ever. Everytime my cousin tells me about what he is doing in Brazil, or informs me of the way of his church I can not help but stare at him with a blank look on my face. I look at him and wonder how he does not notice the similarities between LDS and a cult. Sorry if this offends anyone, but that is just what the mormon religion most closely resembles in my mind. On a side note i lived in Salt Lake City, Utah for 9 years of my life, so it is not like I am making an unresearched observation.


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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: Asante]
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dunno what it is with some ppl replying in this thread... but I just wanna say I'm sorry for you. Lost a good friend as well, allthough not in such a harsh way as in this story.

Edited by PsyFlux (02/07/02 05:10 PM)

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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: CuckoosNest]
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Guys, guys.....

Firstly to "pharmacopeia": if you don't like me playing with words than go be a good sheep and GO FLOCK YOURSELF!
Stupidity about "retarded shit" & fruity whatever I'll not even go into. It just shows you've alot of conciousness-expansion to do that's highly overdue...

About the amount of Grass: I was just pointing out the THC was merely a catalyst, not the main event! If you just take 1 and nobody feels like upping it, that's generally a good sign when moods are good.

Guys & Gals: I wasn't going for the sympathy vote! Major messages were that no matter how good a friendship, it can completely reverse on you in a heartbeat and, worse still: I think good ole Psilocybin & such were the culprits here.....

Now let me adress LDS & religion in general. Please realize I wasn't bashing LDS or Christianity in general: I truely believe all Gods are faces of the One. But I'm really annoyed by how many followers by their very actions drag their Highest One through the mud. Religion is a great good, but it's also a fact that most murders in known human history were committed in the name of some God.
I think the very best of religions is a personal one. One that prevents power-games by the very avoidance of the authority of the few over the many.
Mushrooms can, besides dazzle & daze you with their sheer brilliance, bring you into intimate contact with your Inner Self and the Divine.
This without doubt is their greatest virtue.

But further on the topic!
Did your wife drive out of your marriage in your pickup truck loaded to near collapse with what once was your stash?
Did you yourself (no Urban Legends please!) witness or have a mindfuck like that?
Keep 'em coming!!!


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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: Asante]
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A little hell bent on them microdots now aren't we?  I've lost a good sum of money through LSD to friends that have turned....People who refused to do drugs ever again and then told me they werent going to pay me for the $300 worth of liquid I had fronted them......I was a bit upset at the loss, but its just money....my own stupidity for fronting it....should've at least taken a down payment :wink:........Either way you weren't any better for freaking out on your cult friend.....just my own opinion.............But not like its anything horrible to freak out on mormons......I do it all the time its fun.........And no its not right, but I admit it and all is good..

." Im a decent person, sure I've killed a few people, but who hasn't right?  Let he who is without sin cast the first stone....OW where'd this rock come from?"


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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: Asante]
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Yeah, I must seek conciousness expansion because I think you rambling on like a wannabe journalist looks absolutely rediculous.

Hah, right.


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This signature message for YOU is formulated to GRAB your ATTENTION and.. allow your mind to sink deeper and deeper within itself.. right now.. as your eyes ROOOOOLL over this text you may even notice.. your breathing starts slow down.. and you.. allow yourself to.. become calm and relaxed.. and you'll.. feel drenched in a warm and fuzzy energy.. and every time you read this message, you might.. feel that same warm and buzzing energy getting stronger and thicker..

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"I had a friend once who told me that the worst mistake that you can make is to think that you are alive, when really you're asleep in life's waiting room." -waking life

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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: pharmacopeia]
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My Dear, Dear "pharmacopeia": please don't be offended.

Reading my stuff, as it's generally lenghty, probably took you some minutes, as it would anyone without a photographic memory.

Supposing you're not the type to not think & just post, you posting twice implies you've approximately spent 2x5 minutes pondering & writing those.
If I read you right, in your first one you suggested my writing resembles that of a mentally challanged individual, while making clear you look down on those people & added to that some homophobia, perhaps fueled by an inner conflict, which always has a negative ring to it.
In your second one you decided to abandon the homophobia, but commented that the very lenght & content of my posting inspired nothing in you but ridicule.

Well, let me adress that properly.
In neither of those replies you even touched on the subject the posting was about. The only real content of those replies was that you look down on f#ggots, that you look down on mentally handicapped people & considered me to be one of them and that your my post inspired yet another form of loathing: ridicule.

Considering the time that's passed between your replies one can safely assume my post held you spellbound for a whole day in a negative sense. This is highly meaningful.

Did that one post you read make you feel SO BAD or do you just like to argue, insult folks & call them bad names? In both cases there's obviously alot of negativity in your life: hope your next Trip makes you transcend that and I mean it in the best possible way. I'd like to add that slipping people shit sandwiches only leads to you feeling worse & growing ever more bitter. Believe me: I've been there...

Just wanna help, that's all !

So: you dislike my style... Probably thought you'd had a "Close Encounter of the Geeky Kind" too. (well: I sure can't argue with that one!) If you can't shake the negative feeling associated with reading my stuff and you really think that there's nothing to gain for you by reading my shit, then please write down the name "Wiccan Seeker" somewhere and don't read the stuff I post, or at least stop writing negative replies. This'll give you more peace of mind than reading more of the same shite. The things I post or will reply to you will just contain more of same geekily written mentally retarded fag shit, since that's the kind of person I am.

WE MET AS ENEMIES: LET'S CALL A TRUCE & GRACEFULLY PART.


PEACE !!!


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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: Asante]
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There's a difference between thinking and posting, and going completely overboard to the point where you're just wasting everybodies time with nonsense.

No I wasn't looking down on faggots, or mentally challenged, they were just my blunt way of expressing my opinions about your pointless jabber. Chalk it up to having to deal with annoyances quite regularly, not "inner conflict".

Don't give yourself that much credit, I thought your post was overdone, so I commented, I don't get "spellbound" for a whole day over some guy who thinks he's clever by throwing metaphors into his posts left and right. In fact, it's people like you that make me laugh, so cudos to you on that aspect.

"Close encounter with the geeky kind", we're all geeks in one way or another, the difference is, you make geeks look bad.


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This signature message for YOU is formulated to GRAB your ATTENTION and.. allow your mind to sink deeper and deeper within itself.. right now.. as your eyes ROOOOOLL over this text you may even notice.. your breathing starts slow down.. and you.. allow yourself to.. become calm and relaxed.. and you'll.. feel drenched in a warm and fuzzy energy.. and every time you read this message, you might.. feel that same warm and buzzing energy getting stronger and thicker..

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"I had a friend once who told me that the worst mistake that you can make is to think that you are alive, when really you're asleep in life's waiting room." -waking life

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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: pharmacopeia]
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No offense, but I think

"What the fuck is up with this retarded shit? Go write a novel or something you fruity little faggot. "

Makes "geeks" look worse than

"If he'd had any sense he would've noticed the Cheyenne Mountain of my indignation had all closed up & I've shot to DEFCON 2 all at once. If he weren't so stoned on LDS he'd surely notice all my bases were on full alert, I had flushed anything Stealth, Air Force One was up in the stratosphere and that all my silos were open & everything Nuclear was armed and set on highest yield selection. He really should've noticed all my submarines were closing in on him. "

Just my opinion though.
I do agree with you when you say that you don't have to be obsessed with a post to reply. Sometimes you just got to reply (not necessarily in such a harsh tone though)


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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: djchilxxn]
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Hey man, back off or I'll shoot to defcon 2 all at once!


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W A R N I N G
This signature message for YOU is formulated to GRAB your ATTENTION and.. allow your mind to sink deeper and deeper within itself.. right now.. as your eyes ROOOOOLL over this text you may even notice.. your breathing starts slow down.. and you.. allow yourself to.. become calm and relaxed.. and you'll.. feel drenched in a warm and fuzzy energy.. and every time you read this message, you might.. feel that same warm and buzzing energy getting stronger and thicker..

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"I had a friend once who told me that the worst mistake that you can make is to think that you are alive, when really you're asleep in life's waiting room." -waking life

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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: pharmacopeia]
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Dear "pharmacopeia",

Thanx for that last bit, even though it wasn't entirely friendly.

So: It's being annoyed, then? Although you found my post to be sheer bullshit, I know for a fact there are people out there who LIKE reading this sort of stuff and for those who don't there's allways the "back"-button.

The "spellbound" thingy was partly meant as a provocation, you having written nothing but insults up till then & all.
Sure my post may well be regarded as "overdone": but don't people who overdo things have the right to speak their mind too?
If you say "people like you make me laugh" & "you make geeks look bad", well: there'll allways be folks who don't like eachother.
A little bit from the "WICCAN SEEKER FAQ":

1...Do I think I'm ALL THAT?
I know for a fact I don't come even close to that.
2...Do I think I'm THERE yet?
I'm not even close!
3...Do I try to INTIMIDATE people by writing like I consider myself SUPERIOR?
Nope: just me being foreign (cultural differences) & generally weird.

Good we got to talk a little, even if we dislike eachother.


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Re: JESUS: I damn near KILLED my Tripfriend !!! [Re: Asante]
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OK, firstly:
Pharmacopea, can't we all just hit a bong?

Next:

Dude, that was really harsh what your 'friend' did to you. Really, really harsh.


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[pot]and think low and think high[pot]
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