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csyhomme
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First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ?
#5432599 - 03/23/06 12:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello guys ~ trying to make sure everything is doing fine, casing had been in FC for about 5 days, RH at 95%, RT at low 70s, 12 hours of light everyday and running cool mist for FAE 24/7. How does everything looks ? Any input r welcome ~ THX a lot !

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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: csyhomme]
#5433090 - 03/23/06 06:33 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's almost ready, you'll can probably case tonight or tomorrow.
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Sinthetic]
#5433414 - 03/23/06 09:10 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but those casings are not looking to good.
Your second pic shows it at 93 degrees. That is really hot.
You are gonna have to do some work to those cases. You will need to deepscratch them, scrape them, and add some casing layer over the entire case on the left, and over the white spots on the right.
Drop those temps!
-------------------- Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 ** Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest Cup O' Shrooms Magash: I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers Hyphae: Yes "Loss of moisture from the substrate" is not a casing trigger. My final Grow!
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Citric]
#5433420 - 03/23/06 09:11 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You sure that's not 83?
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
#5433425 - 03/23/06 09:13 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Either way, 83 is still way to hot for fruiting.
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Citric]
#5434527 - 03/23/06 01:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Drop the temp and case!
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csyhomme
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Citric]
#5434563 - 03/23/06 01:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Citric said:
Your second pic shows it at 93 degrees. That is really hot. Drop those temps!
Damn .. u got a sharp eye but thats the temp in my TIT incubator, the temp in FC is at low 70s.
Other than that, is everything looks all right ?
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
#5434572 - 03/23/06 01:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Desiree said: You sure that's not 83?
yup thats 83 ~ Good eye ~
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: csyhomme]
#5434701 - 03/23/06 02:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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so wait is that poo colonizing that i'm seeing?? If it's just WBS cased then thats overlayed to hell..
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: nuk1m]
#5434841 - 03/23/06 02:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is WBS cased with 50/50+ for about 1 week, is it overlay ? ? Should I scrap and put more casing on it ? or leave it be ? Any input r welcome, thanks a lot for the help !
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Citric]
#5434865 - 03/23/06 03:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Citric said: You are gonna have to do some work to those cases. You will need to deepscratch them, scrape them, and add some casing layer over the entire case on the left, and over the white spots on the right.
-------------------- Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 ** Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest Cup O' Shrooms Magash: I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers Hyphae: Yes "Loss of moisture from the substrate" is not a casing trigger. My final Grow!
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Citric]
#5434892 - 03/23/06 03:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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TX citric, I will do it tonight, but whats the cause of it .. I need to know in order to prevent it happen again. And once I scrap them and put more casing on, should I put them in the incubator again or in FC ? Any input r welcome ! THX 4 the help !
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: csyhomme]
#5434925 - 03/23/06 03:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Keep them fruiting.
The reason they got that bad is because you let them incubate for to long before fruiting. The first sign you see of myc you need to do one of two things.
One, fruit it then and there.
Two, patch it and fruit it again in a day or two.
-------------------- Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 ** Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest Cup O' Shrooms Magash: I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers Hyphae: Yes "Loss of moisture from the substrate" is not a casing trigger. My final Grow!
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Citric]
#5435032 - 03/23/06 04:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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usually 2-3 days after you case it you start fruiting it
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: nuk1m]
#5437165 - 03/24/06 04:44 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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THX citric and Nuk1m ~ 5 shrooms for the help ! I will post some more pictures once I scrap and put more casing on, and should I add some hydrogen peroxide in my US humidifier ? Will that help ?
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: csyhomme]
#5437168 - 03/24/06 04:48 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I always use 1/10 h2o2 in any water that I use. Wether it is mistng, dunking, or for my humidifiers.
-------------------- Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 ** Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest Cup O' Shrooms Magash: I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers Hyphae: Yes "Loss of moisture from the substrate" is not a casing trigger. My final Grow!
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Citric]
#5437182 - 03/24/06 05:01 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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BTW, how deap should I scrap ? Just get the top colonized myc off ? or I should scrap more ? and about the casing on the right, should I scrap also or just add more casing ? THX ~~~~ !
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: csyhomme]
#5437199 - 03/24/06 05:13 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You should get that top myc to loosen up. A few milimeters should do the trick.
Yes, scratch both, and recase both.
-------------------- Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 ** Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest Cup O' Shrooms Magash: I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers Hyphae: Yes "Loss of moisture from the substrate" is not a casing trigger. My final Grow!
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Citric]
#5437227 - 03/24/06 05:32 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Got it, I am doing it right now, but damn .... I got 4 more casing that I dont even know if its overlay or not .. .. guess I will post all the pics once I could ...
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: csyhomme]
#5437241 - 03/24/06 05:38 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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-------------------- Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 ** Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest Cup O' Shrooms Magash: I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers Hyphae: Yes "Loss of moisture from the substrate" is not a casing trigger. My final Grow!
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Citric]
#5437275 - 03/24/06 06:08 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Next time I will be more carefull for sure .... and here is the rest of the casing I have, its not the same patch, hopefully I dont need to scrap all of them and recase, but if I do .. I will do it right away ... THX a lot, I really appreciated.


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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: csyhomme]
#5437432 - 03/24/06 07:39 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Unfortunatly, I would scratch and recase all of them.
Next time, like I said, as soon as you see the first signs of myc poking through the casing layer, fruit or patch.
-------------------- Self Healing lid tek ** Update 10.17.17 ** Mini casing pictures: Pins to harvest Cup O' Shrooms Magash: I noticed my contams were in the shape of fingers Hyphae: Yes "Loss of moisture from the substrate" is not a casing trigger. My final Grow!
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Citric]
#5437863 - 03/24/06 10:47 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wow dude that is some nasty overlay. Def need to re-read the casing strategy. Try "Hyphae's pinning manual", works like a charm and easy to understand. Good luck
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Akira]
#5437898 - 03/24/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I say that the first two are still ok, but the last one is major overlay city. See how its matted and turning yellow? That's overlay.
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Sinthetic]
#5452957 - 03/28/06 08:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here are some updates, I scrap and re-case it with 50/50+, been in FC since them  
Lights 12 hours per day, RT at low 70s, RH at 95%+ ( US/HUM running 24/7 ).
Hows everythign looks so far ? hopefully took care of the overlay problem, anything else that I should be wathing out for ? Any input r welcome, THX !
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: csyhomme]
#5453076 - 03/28/06 09:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You'll have problems with RH at 95 for casings, drop it down to 85 but don't go above 90. GL with the casings this time.
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Solidcell]
#5453326 - 03/28/06 10:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's the one thing that I will keep a close watch, & should I keep it under 90%RH through out ?? or ?
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: csyhomme]
#5453406 - 03/28/06 10:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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during fruiting, casings need a rH of 85-90%, your rH right now is more suited for cakes. All throughout the fruiting cycle (after incubation until trash) you need to keep the rH at 85-90. You'll continue having overlay problems otherwise. Hope that clears it up.
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Solidcell]
#5453467 - 03/28/06 10:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Actually.... I believe Hyphae has said that to initiate pinning a RH of about 95% for your casings is the IDEAL condition. Then once pinning starts, drop it to about 85%. This of course is for optimal growth, you can just leave it at 85% the whole time.
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Akira]
#5453483 - 03/28/06 10:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ah you are correct sir . Although, since he is having so much trouble getting any casing to work, I wouldn't suggest that he try to adjust the rH during fruiting. I can't argue with Hyphae though, he knows his stuff, although I do think csyhomme should be keeping it simple for now.
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Solidcell]
#5453531 - 03/28/06 11:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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agreed^
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Akira]
#5453573 - 03/28/06 11:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, troubles.. troubles .. ~ I will drop RH to under 90% and keep a close eye on it, will keep it updated ~ If there is anything that I should be watching out for, please let me know as well ! !
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: csyhomme]
#5453994 - 03/29/06 04:51 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I never fruit under 95% even on casings.
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Re: First attempt ~ WBS cased w 50/50+, does it look right ? [Re: Citric]
#5454040 - 03/29/06 06:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Should I keep RH up at 95% or drop it since the casing is recovering from overlay ?
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