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WhAcKeD
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Questions about how everyone uses there All American...
#5431435 - 03/22/06 07:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The manual says to tighten the wing nuts, but it doesn't say how tight to make them, so I just used vice grips and cranked them as far to the right as I could. I'm kidding. But really, how tight does everyone make them? Second, how often and how much vaseline do you apply to the seal? Third, do I need to wash it out after each use? The manual indicates that the weight should jiggle between 1 and 4 times per minute when the unit is at pressure. Is 6 or 7 okay? I bought the unit brand new, just got it from AA in WI. The top is getting stuck, I have to use a flat head to remove it. What gives? Any other tips would be great too.
btw, This is a beautiful piece of equipment, and I have a strong feeling it is going to make my life a hell of a lot easier (my old PC held 4 quart jars.) Thank you to all those who encouraged this purchase over the last year.

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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: WhAcKeD]
#5431464 - 03/22/06 07:21 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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First, ring the lip with paraffin.
Second, start tightening 2 opposed, then the other 2 opposed from those. Then, tighten the rest clockwise. Then, re-tighten all of them (by hand).
Note, new ones take a little breaking in, until the lid gets a "seat" pattern. Then, they are a bit easier to open.
Third,, order a (sterilizer) toggle release valve from AA.
  And, REPLACE THE WEIGHT WITH IT. Then, PC will not lose moisture & you can PC all night.
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: WhAcKeD]
#5431501 - 03/22/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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It takes a bit of practice, as well as a break-in period, but the lid should come off without prying with a screwdriver or anything else. Adjust the wingnuts until they just barely get snug, then give each one about 1/8 turn. Don't make them tight. They only need to be tight enough to get a seal.
I use a bit of vaseline about the size of a kernel of corn on my finger to lube the seal. I apply the lube to both the lid and the PC. Be sure to wipe the old vaseline off with a paper towel or by washing. If you don't, dust and dirt stick to the grease and will eventually wear out the seal.
Turn the stove on high, leave the weight off, and allow to warm up until steam escapes for five minutes or so. I wait until I can see a bit of pressure beginning to build on the guage before I put the weight on. Watch the pressure build. At about 13 psi, a hiss will be heard as steam begins to escape. At this point, you can reduce heat slightly because the weight will begin to rattle very soon. I reduce the heat during the cycle anytime the weight rattles. I consider four times per minute too much. Adjust so the constant steam is escaping, but no rattling occurs. This will keep your kitchen much quieter and you'll use less water during the cycle. The rattling of the weight is actually letting excess steam pressure escape. If you're cooking agar and the weight rattles very much at all, the agar will boil over and you'll open the PC to a mess. RR
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5431799 - 03/22/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Great advice RR! As with any weighted PC (5-10-15 psi) 4 giggles is a good target any more and the actual pressure is less than optimum as well as excessive moisture loss. I find it much easier to have it giggle 3-4 times a minute than once as far as adjusting the heat source and at 4 times a minute I've never ran a PC dry except for a heavily loaded WBS bags moment and ran it for 120 minutes (one time). With the guage you adjust heat to keep at 15psi whether it giggles once or for times a minute. RR knows how to seal his AA so follow his advice it won't fail you.
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: hyphae]
#5431825 - 03/22/06 09:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree with agar in that the toggles are far superior! You don't use a drop of water throughout the cycle, and you can manage pressures very well. Even raise the pressures above 15psi if you choose.
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5431857 - 03/22/06 09:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Adjust the wingnuts until they just barely get snug, then give each one about 1/8 turn. Don't make them tight. They only need to be tight enough to get a seal.
I use a bit of vaseline about the size of a kernel of corn on my finger to lube the seal.
yes and yes....I did not follow that even though I new better.. 
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: Snaggletooth]
#5435814 - 03/23/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks guys! My manual doesn't list a p/n for the toggle release, other than the part number 65 control valve, which is no longer available. As far as the break in period, what do I do in the mean time, because it is loosing a lot of pressure and moisture becasue of the leakage. Should I tighten it very tight to start, so that it doesn't leak? Third, do i use just periffin, instead of vaseline?
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: WhAcKeD]
#5435843 - 03/23/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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WhAcKeD said: Thanks guys! My manual doesn't list a p/n for the toggle release, other than the part number 65 control valve, which is no longer available.
[url=https://store.wafco.com/ezmerchant/home.nsf ]CLICK HERE[/url] and type "65" into the search box. It's still available. 
Thank you Jaeger and Agar for the toggle recommendation 
It really does make all the difference in the world. No rattles, hissing or moisture loss. My only issue is that it's so damn quiet, I forget my PC is going sometimes!
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: WhAcKeD]
#5435854 - 03/23/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Where exactly is it leaking from? RR
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: RogerRabbit]
#5435907 - 03/23/06 08:44 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for saving me the hassle of searching for that link  Whacked has a friggin huge one lol, does that little burner run it well?
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: Jaeger]
#5435923 - 03/23/06 08:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Actually, after a second look, his actually looks like a sterilizer, not a cooker which would mean he already has toggle valves on there. It looks like one of the big electric models, but I could be wrong.
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: FooMan] 1
#5437298 - 03/24/06 06:28 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Haha, no it's a 930 PC. I couldn't find a sterilizer, so I just bought this one. It's leaking from the 'exclusive metal-to-metal seal'! Thanks for that link. Howecome the sterilizers have that exhaust tube? Should I order anything else at the same time? I don't know, does the burner run it well: It takes one hour to heat up cool water and exhaust, and one more hour to get up to pressure. ???
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: WhAcKeD]
#5437473 - 03/24/06 08:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Are you lining up the ARROW on the lid & NOTCH on the pot - correctly? Be sure to do that.
 Also, when you apply the lid. Once, it is in place correctly. Make sure it is SEATED evenly, all the way around Before you begin tightening it.

Once you convert the weight to a toggle valve. It heats up fairly fast, as no steam is escaping. Your heat/pressure building time is effected by the SIZE & POWER Of your burner, element, or hot plate. It appears you have a mini hot plate under that 930. Get a BIGGER/BETTER hot plate. Or use a big element, on your stove. That should SPEED up the process.
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: agar]
#5437596 - 03/24/06 08:58 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the link for the sterilizer!
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: TheFish]
#5439454 - 03/24/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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yes, I am, agar. I check meticulously to make sure it is level - I spent 4 minutes on that this morning, it was absolutley perfect, and I spent an equal amount of time on the previous two runs. I'm trying out the paraffin (Gulf Wax) this morning. And I always made sure that the arrows were lined up. I read the instruction book very carefully. I tightened the wing nuts to snug (not tight) then gave them another 1/8 turn, until I felt that they were all evenly tight, but could go another 1/8th turn if I really cranked them.
*Update* the run this morning didn't go too well - it didn't get past 13 psi, I eventually turned it off, becasue it was leaking around the seal and I was afraid it would run dry. <insert smoking head guy here>
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: WhAcKeD]
#5439479 - 03/24/06 08:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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OKAY, this time RINK the puppies down TIGHT (I mean TIGHT) as you can turn them (by hand).
It should NOT leak then.
Have a broad edge some-thing-or-another (I used the edge of a herky thick stainless steel meat clever)to pry the lid open, once done.
Don't use anything NARROW edged, like a SCREW DRIVER LIP, to pry it open with.
If that doesn't do it. Contact WAFCO & ask for a REPLACEMENT.
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: agar]
#5439504 - 03/24/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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That toggle release valve says it's good for between 23-28 psi. isn't that too high? I have the 915 I believe. It holds 7 quarts and i'm still using the weight which kinda sucks a lot. If I could get it to be quiet that would be great, but I don;t want it to blow up on me either. little help?
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: cookeman]
#5439570 - 03/24/06 09:14 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not that you want to, but I've forgotten about the PC momentarily and had the pressure in upwards of 25psi. The toggle will release the pressure before it gets too high. The little lever will actually pop up and hiss like a weight if you let the pressure get too high. At that point, you just tap the top of it and it will drop back into place. You definitely want to do a low-heat test run to make sure the toggle is working properly.
The toggle makes it MUCH easier to regulate the pressure and I find that it takes alot less heat and adjusting to get right.
I use the toggle on an AA925:

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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: cookeman]
#5439785 - 03/24/06 10:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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cookeman said: That toggle release valve says it's good for between 23-28 psi. isn't that too high? I have the 915 I believe. It holds 7 quarts and i'm still using the weight which kinda sucks a lot. If I could get it to be quiet that would be great, but I don;t want it to blow up on me either. little help?
READ DUDE:
The toggle RELEASES PRESSURE @ 23-28 psi. That is a SAFETY FEATURE.
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: agar]
#5439914 - 03/24/06 11:08 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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sorry, i assumed that meant it would release pressure as in like the weight would when it would start jiggling. So does it keep the pressure at a set 15 p.s.i.? I guess I just don't understand how it works. i'm really interested though
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: cookeman]
#5440015 - 03/24/06 11:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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The cooker has a gauge. You will adjust the setting on your stovetop to reach the "said psi". Heat controls the pressure in a literal sense. If you don't have the time to make dry runs with exact amounts of water, then smoke a bowl and monitor it for an hour.
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: cookeman]
#5440492 - 03/25/06 09:09 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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cookeman said: sorry, i assumed that meant it would release pressure as in like the weight would when it would start jiggling. So does it keep the pressure at a set 15 p.s.i.? I guess I just don't understand how it works. i'm really interested though

All the older AA's have the valve pictured above. Current models AA sterilizers all have the valve.
The valve has a SPRING inside it. Which is designed to hold pressure & not release it. Until internal pressure reaches the 22 to 26 psi range.
So, with an AA equipped with this valve. You simply apply heat to the pot. As the pot heats, the internal pressure increases. WITHOUT ANY LOSS OF STEAM OR INTERNAL MOISTURE.
Once internal pressure reaches the desired range (15/18psi).
 On the gauge.
You DECREASE the heat, to MAINTAIN the DESIRED pressure.
If you happen to ignore the AA, while it is being heated.
If the internal pressure begins to approach the 22 psi range.
The valve will begin to CHIRP & emit steam in little spurts.
As it approaches 26 psi, it will begin emitting lots of steam & whistling LOUDLY.
So, the PC doesn't build pressure beyond manufactures recommendations. The chirp first, is a mild warning. The whistling steam release is a LOUD WARNING.
What is GREAT about the valve is this. At the desired psi range (15/18), it does not emit one iota of steam.
Meaning, the PC doesn't lose ANY moisture. Given that fact, you can PC for hours on end, if you wish. And, the PC will still have the same amount of water, inside it.
The advantages are, you can use FAR LESS WATER to begin with. And, PC for as long a cycle - as you wish.
Simply stated, with a weight system, that is NOT THE CASE. As, under pressure, it consistently emits a small amount of moisture. Meaning, over time, it WILL RUN DRY.
The reason new AA PC's went to the weight, is it COSTS LESS. Than the VALVE.
The valves still come standard on AA sterilizers.

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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: agar]
#5440538 - 03/25/06 09:59 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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agar said:
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cookeman said: sorry, i assumed that meant it would release pressure as in like the weight would when it would start jiggling. So does it keep the pressure at a set 15 p.s.i.? I guess I just don't understand how it works. i'm really interested though
You're the king agar. Thanks, I got it now. I'm definitely getting that toggle gauge dealy lol. Thanks!

All the older AA's have the valve pictured above. Current models AA sterilizers all have the valve.
The valve has a SPRING inside it. Which is designed to hold pressure & not release it. Until internal pressure reaches the 22 to 26 psi range.
So, with an AA equipped with this valve. You simply apply heat to the pot. As the pot heats, the internal pressure increases. WITHOUT ANY LOSS OF STEAM OR INTERNAL MOISTURE.
Once internal pressure reaches the desired range (15/18psi).
 On the gauge.
You DECREASE the heat, to MAINTAIN the DESIRED pressure.
If you happen to ignore the AA, while it is being heated.
If the internal pressure begins to approach the 22 psi range.
The valve will begin to CHIRP & emit steam in little spurts.
As it approaches 26 psi, it will begin emitting lots of steam & whistling LOUDLY.
So, the PC doesn't build pressure beyond manufactures recommendations. The chirp first, is a mild warning. The whistling steam release is a LOUD WARNING.
What is GREAT about the valve is this. At the desired psi range (15/18), it does not emit one iota of steam.
Meaning, the PC doesn't lose ANY moisture. Given that fact, you can PC for hours on end, if you wish. And, the PC will still have the same amount of water, inside it.
The advantages are, you can use FAR LESS WATER to begin with. And, PC for as long a cycle - as you wish.
Simply stated, with a weight system, that is NOT THE CASE. As, under pressure, it consistently emits a small amount of moisture. Meaning, over time, it WILL RUN DRY.
The reason new AA PC's went to the weight, is it COSTS LESS. Than the VALVE.
The valves still come standard on AA sterilizers.

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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: cookeman]
#5445686 - 03/26/06 11:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alright, we're on to another try here, I think this is number 4 (or is it 5?) I wiped the lip with a paper towel and re-parffined it. Was that neccesary? Also, this will be the third tme these rye jars have been PC'd, and they look kinda brown. I suppose I should toss them, lol. I hope this works :-)
*Update* It's working! I guess I just had to crank those nuts down good. You know, it is up kinda high, so I'm not getting a whole lot of leverage, maybe they just weren't very tight to begin with. I hope the lid comes off...
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: WhAcKeD]
#5446295 - 03/27/06 05:03 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I believe I read in the manual that removing the weight immediately after the pressure drops helps the lid come off easier. I can't say whether or not it's true, but I do remember reading that.
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: FooMan]
#5454790 - 03/29/06 11:24 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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*Update* Well, it's not leaking, which is really great, but the lid is still getting stuck. I have to pry in about 3 different spots with a (very) large screwdriver, and when it breaks loose it make loud 'pop'. I even tried the last three times I ran it, removing the weight as soon as pressure gets to 0, but that doesn't help. I wiped the seal with a paper towel and ringed it with parrafin, lightly at first, then lightly + vaseline, then just heavy with paraffin, but none of those helped.
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: WhAcKeD]
#5454807 - 03/29/06 11:31 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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buy a mirro :p
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: WhAcKeD]
#5455895 - 03/29/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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WhAcKeD said: *Update* Well, it's not leaking, which is really great, but the lid is still getting stuck. I have to pry in about 3 different spots with a (very) large screwdriver, and when it breaks loose it make loud 'pop'. I even tried the last three times I ran it, removing the weight as soon as pressure gets to 0, but that doesn't help. I wiped the seal with a paper towel and ringed it with parrafin, lightly at first, then lightly + vaseline, then just heavy with paraffin, but none of those helped.
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It will break in with time. Just keep using it correctly and keep that seal lubed. Make sure you don't damage the PC with using a screwdriver. 
All in the patience.
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: cappa]
#5461724 - 03/30/06 09:17 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: WhAcKeD]
#5568676 - 04/28/06 09:49 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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how long should it take to get to 15 psi using a 930 fitted with a toggle?
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: Tweexican]
#5569344 - 04/29/06 01:00 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you have it on a burner, pre-heating while you load it.
Then cinch the top down & turner the burner on high.
It should only take a couple minutes.
Once it reaches about 12 psi, turn the burner DOWN.
As psi will continue to climb.
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: agar]
#5569502 - 04/29/06 02:20 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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Man, you guys really tempt me to buy one of those AA 925s and sell my old trusty Mirro 22-quart. They look _NICE_.
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: Blue Helix]
#5814296 - 07/03/06 12:31 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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its normal for the overpressure plug to leak steam until 5 psi. I also get leakage around my weight gauges threading until 5 psi. Read the instructions. A very thin layer of lubricant should last 3-4 runs. I just let the pc start heating up. Wipe off the rim and apply vaseline while its hot. Makes for Just a tad that stays on the seal. after about 5 runs I never had to pry it loose again.
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: JSshroom]
#5814993 - 07/03/06 06:58 AM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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You're crazy for tightening those things with a vicegrip. Those plastic things are the only thing that can break on your AA. They will break eventually if you don't treat them right.
As far as pressure, AAs won't explode. They're 10 times sturdier than any other PC I've seen and they all will handle 15 psi, so I bet the AA could do at least 50-60 no problem. I've seen them with the needle pegged for hours before with no problem, so don't worry about them exploding. In fact, the gages even still work right, even after being pegged many times over long periods.
Those toggles look really nice. The AA does have a rather loud weight system. As far as getting the lid off... You need to hit it with a hammer. I never found the lids to get easier to remove after time. Take a hammer and TAP it firmly in the direction you would turn it to remove the lid. One or two sharp, but not hard, raps should pop it. Don't hit it down or up, just in the direction you need to turn it. I'm surprised nobody already mentioned this.
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: fastfred]
#5816538 - 07/03/06 04:09 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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you stole that avatar fastfred LOL I like it too.
I do not have to use a hammer. if you read the manual it sais use a screwdriver and insert it into the latch NOT THE EDGE WHERE THE SEAL IS and pry up.
I personally do not need to do either. I just turn it by hand to open it. Also opening it with 1-2 lbs of pressure left will pop it loose as well. Just take the weight off and start loosening the wing nuts and the whole lid will pop loose. PS I am not taking a hammer to my 150$ AA PC
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: JSshroom]
#5818145 - 07/03/06 11:10 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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RR was kind enough to let me use his pic as my avatar. All hail RR and the amazing shroom bible!
A hammer isn't going to damage a solid piece of milled aluminum like an AA. It never even put a scuff in the one I used.
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Re: Questions about how everyone uses there All American... [Re: fastfred]
#5820079 - 07/04/06 01:44 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just PC'd some bags of wbs for 2 1/2 hrs. left the pressure weight on it all night. I turned the stove off and went to bed. Which according to the manual is supposed to form a tight vacuum. Got up and set up the impulse sealer. Took the weight off and turned the lid open with no effort. I think its just a matter of breaking them in.
damage or not. No hammer to my AA
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