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Offlinefreezepooter
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Re: How To: Increase LSD Visuals [Re: kaniz]
    #5432044 - 03/22/06 09:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Those grids are just the start of it :smile:, I recall spacing on my bathtub actually while going to the bathroom, (sitting on the shitter is also a sure way to up the visuals, lol), and the grids started to form in my bathtub, then started to form into 3D space (and not just patterns on the surface), and formed into an animated outline of two people making love in the bath tub.




Ok, I've been wondering about this for some time. it seems that before a visual takes place, sort of a Grid lines up on the area being looked at. then the visual happends after a couple seconds after this grid is fully formed.

sometimes on weed, my whole feild of vision turns into the grid, but doesn't start fractalizing as it does on mushroom.

is the grid i'm talking about the grid you're talking about?


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Re: How To: Increase LSD Visuals [Re: freezepooter]
    #5432071 - 03/22/06 09:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Same grid.

Those grids are the root of all visuals, and are visuals themselves for certain.

I dont see anything like Kaniz metioned even If I have taken a ten strip of lsd or 5 grams of shrooms. Honestly I think the most rational way to go about tripping doesnt really allow for that sort of thing.

On even the heaviest dose, Nothing is making love in my bathroom, nor does my vision perceive it as such. The visuals make love to each other but the actual visuals wont take on other more realistic forms unless the are seperate from the visual palette.

Visuals are geometric. They dont just make pictures for you to observe, although what you are thinking at the time creates a whole knew realm of visuals on a higher dose.

Some people see landscapes etc etc. Thats a different kind of visual. Its deeper but has more to do with your memory than a selfless state of mind and the true form of visuals.


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Re: How To: Increase LSD Visuals [Re: stemmer]
    #5432152 - 03/22/06 10:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I've noticed that alot of my visuals tend to be very erotic in orgin. Its not like I see two physical bodies having sex. Its like shapes/outlines that have a 'humanish' form, are constantly intwined in some sort of constantly inter-locking inter-woven sexual motion.

Here is a pic that is sort of an artist-rendition of it I guess


But, the 'grid' was forming the outline to shapes like that, but instead of being many of those - it was two intertwined bodies (made up of the grids), in a very 'sensual' motion in my tub.

It wasnt an "oh my god, theres two people fucking in my bathtub" or anything like that - but just the way these grids started to bend, warp, and eventually move-throbe gave very much a sense of an ereotic-scene happening before me.

Another common visual, especially in shadows - is make the above image a bit of a shadow. And, say, wrap the leg from the one girl around the leg from the other, then they keep wraping around eachother/interlocking/moving/thrusting/etc to form a very sexual 'sex-scape' of imagery before me.

All in all, it's rather beautiful to watch - as when looking at the trees, I can see them starting to do the same inter-locking patterns forming on them.


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Re: How To: Increase LSD Visuals [Re: kaniz]
    #5432191 - 03/22/06 10:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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I dont see anything like Kaniz metioned even If I have taken a ten strip of lsd or 5 grams of shrooms. Honestly I think the most rational way to go about tripping doesnt really allow for that sort of thing.





That was actually off of 1.5 hits, not a 10strip. Its not like the bodies became 'real', it was still very much based in the geometric outlines of them. It was like the geometric grids were forming the outlines of the bodies.

I also recall on the same trip, staring at my couch - and seeing these lines start to form on the couch, then they started to get into an infinite depth within the couch, still very geometric - crisp lines, cubes, etc, which seemed to be forming into increasingly complex geometric patterns.

The patterns on my couch were starting to animate, but almost as if to 'distract' me from looking at what else was forming. I wanted to let my mind drift into that space for a bit longer, but my BF thought I was ignoring him, and broke me out of that headspace to let me travel there.


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Re: How To: Increase LSD Visuals [Re: stemmer]
    #5432287 - 03/22/06 10:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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For some people on psychedelics, A leads in a streight line to d and it takes some time.

For others A-B-C-D are well defined. Thus it moves in very little time from: A-C-B-C-D...to...A-B-D-C-B-D. Those are the people who are best to be around while tripping even if you are not one of those people with the inspired capacity to speak about it.




I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. A lot of times when I trip, especially on shrooms with other people, I can take some simple concept and do processing on it and come up with all sorts of things in this sort of fashion. here's how I would explain it:

if a then b.
if b then c
if c then d
...
if y then z
then a implies z.

^that is how I would normally see and understand a complex process.

how it works when I'm tripping:

a implies z and all variables and processes between them are fully understood almost instantly.

there is a loss of the intermediate steps to come to the conclusion. I view concepts and systems as input/output systems and understand them through abstraction...rather than logicly reasoning them out. It's a very unique problem-solving mindstate for me that I don't get to experience normally.


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Re: How To: Increase LSD Visuals [Re: Kaleidoscope]
    #5432565 - 03/22/06 11:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Even Einstein thought that this process was god. As did J coltrane, and many many others incuding myself. The unmoved mover, takes control, the golden mean is more of an inevitable destination than it is of your own control.

I am a jazz guitarest and nothing, NOTHING helped my development like psychedelics. Its like weighing all the possibilities at once aside from what we call time. Psychedelics taught me how to play, and I have never had a lesson in my life(its a metaphore, but it is very relavent, thats why I mentioned coltrane and einstein). My own neurology played the music for me thanks to a few obvious skills I had picked up along the way(again, a metaphore).


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Re: How To: Increase LSD Visuals [Re: stemmer]
    #5433091 - 03/23/06 06:34 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

hah kaleidoscope i think i understand...I find in my sober mind, the though process starts...then there is a moment, the peak of my process...where all is understood at the same time. All the pieces of the puzzles are recognized at the same time. Then it starts again. It is often like that, but i havent wandered enough in this to understand more about it.

On lsd, it takes much less time. Or sometimes I guess it can be almost instant. And when it does it, the understanding...the visuals do sometn cool...And sometimes I start wishing there wasnt this moment of understanding everything, repeating itself in a cycle, so lets just stay in the moment. Havin glimpses of what I think is god right now...we experience god in different ways (knowledge, love, hate) , but weakly, because of ourselves...


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Re: How To: Increase LSD Visuals [Re: kaniz]
    #18197413 - 05/01/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

He'll yeah I know exactly what y'all are talking about . Thats the best way to avoid
A bad trip and have the most spiritual and mind bending experience possible. Trip on!


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Re: How To: Increase LSD Visuals [Re: Trippy.mane]
    #18197738 - 05/01/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: How To: Increase LSD Visuals [Re: Ando Banko]
    #18197805 - 05/01/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

I find the best way to increase LSD visuals is to add 2C-b.


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Re: How To: Increase LSD Visuals [Re: theonlysun81]
    #18199278 - 05/01/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 8 months ago)

Imo it takes practice teaching your eyes to go out of focus, then remembering to do it while tripping the fuck out!


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