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Pan subbs question
    #5430409 - 03/22/06 03:11 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hey i was just wondering, when Pan. subbs grow in hay that is rotting does it have to be around dung or can it just decompose somewhere else, the woods maybe?


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    #5430758 - 03/22/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Pan subbs question [Re: Mead]
    #5430789 - 03/22/06 04:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

neither field nor hay is necessary

i found one when i got to new orleans next to the sidewalk, in the grass.

same in eugene, or
sod. landscaping with ruminant compost....


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    #5430828 - 03/22/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Pan subbs question [Re: Mead]
    #5431505 - 03/22/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Some of the largest Pan Subb fruitings in the northwest occur because they are resident in the sod that is laid in new subdivisions and other development...
the sod farm unwittingly grows them as part of their operations and spreads them around via their product.

I'm sure MJ has something to say about it, too...

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Re: Pan subbs question [Re: JackStraw88]
    #5431594 - 03/22/06 07:50 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I found these on a hay bail miles from any manure.



Here's the original thread.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4288875#Post4288875


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Re: Pan subbs question [Re: remediator]
    #5431630 - 03/22/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I don?t know how wide spread the sod phenomena is but I have experienced this as well. Of course I?m sure it has much to do with the practices employed by particular sod farms.
In the late 90s I encountered this on the grounds of a small private pathologically christian university that had erected a few new buildings in the name of the messiah... the fresh sod produced vast numbers of Panaeolus subbalteatus every spring and autumn for two years.
I have kept my eyes on freshly laid sod ever since. Lamentably I haven't found this to be a particularly common occurrence in portions of the Midwest known to me.
You pacific north westerners are so darned spoiled! The best mushrooms, the best coffee, your school boards don't freak out about monkeys...

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Re: Pan subbs question [Re: JackStraw88]
    #5432371 - 03/22/06 11:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

A good sort of spot for hay bails is one where they are in a moist area, have been left uncovered for a while, and are in the shade. They can still fruit if not in the shade of course, I just find that they tend to like the shade better. Manure is not required fro them to grow from hay bails. Places like construction sites (like new neighborhoods being built) often have bails of hay left out and uncovered for long periods of time.


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    #5433431 - 03/23/06 09:14 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Pan subbs question [Re: Mead]
    #5433592 - 03/23/06 09:47 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i find they like to grow in sunny areas more, in the cracks where the sun doesnt shine.

like, in hay thats in the shade, they dont grow as much, and they dont like direct light, but hay/straw rotting in the open, as long as it is humid enough they grow best. often from pits and rits in the bales, or from around the sides.

i think this may be because theres better air exchange in the open, more rain exposure, and warmth from the sun to heat the entire mound and not just the composting pit which is too hot for fungus anyway.


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Re: Pan subbs question [Re: JackStraw88]
    #5443930 - 03/26/06 12:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

They grow off of manure mostly. But, you can still find them in rotting hay bails. Id go looking for manure/compost piles first though.


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