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Offlinebeast88mm
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need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics)
    #5429423 - 03/22/06 10:48 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

found in central cali any more info needed?


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: beast88mm]
    #5429514 - 03/22/06 11:19 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

In the second to last pic they look stained blue. I would think that they were psilocybe, but I would ask someone who is really knowlegable.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: fatts]
    #5429530 - 03/22/06 11:23 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i found them in siloage for cows. no dung around.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: beast88mm]
    #5429545 - 03/22/06 11:26 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

There dosent have to be dung around if the ground is enriched with manure. If there have been cows dropping manure there for some time then the ground is probably full of nutrients even if there is no sign of dung. The mycelium grows underground. They look like cubies to me. Do a spore print. If the spores are dark purple I would further think that they are cubes.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: fatts]
    #5429548 - 03/22/06 11:28 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah lol im color blind so be hard for me to tell the color.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: beast88mm]
    #5429555 - 03/22/06 11:31 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Oh. Well they are stained blue in the second to last pic.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: beast88mm]
    #5429561 - 03/22/06 11:32 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

o and this is around stockton area.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: beast88mm]
    #5429593 - 03/22/06 11:41 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Nice pics- now do a sporeprint.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: superblingtheory]
    #5429663 - 03/22/06 11:58 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

new to shrooms. what would a sporeprint before?


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: beast88mm]
    #5429686 - 03/22/06 12:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Ah- welcome wo the shroomery! Before you post on the MHunting forum, you should have read through the General Information on mushroom hunting/identifying info on the site. I t includes info on spore print making (quite simple). Not tring to be a pain, but first things first. Happy picking friend.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: superblingtheory]
    #5429852 - 03/22/06 12:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ok so i guess i would use a print to grow more shrooms? well i cant at the moment do that so i dont need a print. just wanted to know if these were ok to eat and trip on. and not die from poison. lol


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: beast88mm]
    #5429866 - 03/22/06 12:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The print is required for purpose of obtaining an ID. The color of the print is used to determine the possible genera your specimens could belong.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: baycafe]
    #5429884 - 03/22/06 01:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

o ok ty ill try and get a print.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: beast88mm]
    #5429895 - 03/22/06 01:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Since the photos were last taken,  have they bruised blue anywhere?  Before you select a cap to print (for identification purposes),  see which one has the best visual concentraion of spores.  -BG
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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: BigGhost]
    #5430092 - 03/22/06 01:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

agrocybe praecox.
not active or edible.
some books say edible, but they aren't really.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5430184 - 03/22/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

they dont look like that tho. this is a pic of agrocybe praecox.

pic of mine


Edited by beast88mm (03/22/06 02:59 PM)


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: beast88mm]
    #5430242 - 03/22/06 02:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

hmmmm.

well, stropharia is a candidate for genus.
i guess you really are gonna have to take that sporeprint.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: Mitchnast]
    #5430293 - 03/22/06 02:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It seems too big to be anything but Cubensis really. That's just what I think though.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: LaughingGym]
    #5431278 - 03/22/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

They are not cubensis because they do not have a vail remnant.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: hot48yearolds]
    #5431305 - 03/22/06 06:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'm looking forward to seeing that spore print.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: fatts]
    #5431560 - 03/22/06 07:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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Oh. Well they are stained blue in the second to last pic.




That doesn't look blue to me. It looks like a spore deposit.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: shroomydan]
    #5431713 - 03/22/06 08:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics)



NOT CUBES.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: beast88mm]
    #5432378 - 03/22/06 11:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Looks like it fits into a complex of similar looking mushrooms.. it doesn't look like anything active either way.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: eris]
    #5432553 - 03/22/06 11:46 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

not active.

Probably Agrocybe. Not necessarily praecox, but that's as good a guess as any. That photo of Agrocybe praecox is just ONE PHOTO. The expression varies a great deal in all mushrooms.
They could be some Stropharia, but they don't have a veil to speak of....

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/agrocybe_praecox.html
This page explains a little better why your mushroom could be A. praecox and not look like it to you.
Of course, you have not yet stated what color the spore print is... the reason it is important is that it is one of the defining characteristics of the mushroom. The spore color, 99.99% of the time, will not vary at all from one praecox to the next....or one cubensis to the next.
The color of the cap may be quite variable. Many visual indicators that seem to be useful initially are actually no good at all when it comes down to making an ID.
Read the rules. They will splain to you how to tell us what we need to know to help you. you can't just go hunting and take pictures and have some people you don't know decide whether you can eat them or not!!! YOU have to learn how to ID them before you can eat wild mushrooms. Because in the end, you will be the one to suffer from your poor decision making if you haven't decided well....
good luck


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: remediator]
    #5432660 - 03/23/06 12:29 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

ok ty for the help


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: beast88mm]
    #5433058 - 03/23/06 05:51 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Nothing good there as far as psilocybe but good picking. A bit of variety! Are you in Central or Southern Cali? Stick with the poo. I found a bunches at dairys. That's the only place I find anything in Cali!


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: 4skin]
    #5433189 - 03/23/06 07:43 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Cubes don't grow in california....go look in some woodchips, or well fertilized or manured fields, but looking directly in the manure it's self is pretty much a waste of time where you live.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: Shrum821]
    #5434568 - 03/23/06 01:52 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yeah im in central cali. and i go to dairys daily as i deliver food for the cows. so ill keep a eye out. what are the active ones in california around dairys?


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: 4skin]
    #5434704 - 03/23/06 02:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Nothing good there as far as psilocybe but good picking. A bit of variety! Are you in Central or Southern Cali? Stick with the poo. I found a bunches at dairys. That's the only place I find anything in Cali!





dude. Stop talking about finding Cubes in Cali unless you have pics.

They just dont grow here.


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Re: need help id these Cali shrooms ty (pics) [Re: sui]
    #5442805 - 03/26/06 12:24 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

If they were blue-staining, I'd say its one of the cyanofibrillosa-like species we get here in northern California.

If it isn't blue-staining, then I'd go with something Agrocybe praecox, Stropharia riparia, or Psathyrella longistriata. The presence of an appendiculate margin on one of the mushrooms narrows it to one of the latter two species.

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