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mack_tasticlies
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Re: Think about this next time you shop at Walmart. [Re: mack_tasticlies]
#5437972 - 03/24/06 11:29 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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There is increasing evidence, however, that these assumptions are misplaced and that New Guinea?s foragers may more accurately represent the hunter-gatherer past. Recent primate research finds that chimpanzees practice a form of lethal aggression against neighbors that has striking similarities to ambush in human society.
from the excerpt I posted.
not assumptions but increasing evidence.
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Re: Think about this next time you shop at Walmart. [Re: mack_tasticlies]
#5437974 - 03/24/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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This conclusion is corroborated by historical research on reputedly peaceful hunter-gatherer groups such as the !Kung, Inuit, and Australian Aborigines, which suggests that war was considerably more prevalent among these peoples than previously supposed
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Re: Think about this next time you shop at Walmart. [Re: mack_tasticlies]
#5437975 - 03/24/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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This suggests that organized deadly violence may antedate the human-chimpanzee split, some 5 to 7 million years ago, and therefore may have characterized the whole of human prehistory.
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Re: Think about this next time you shop at Walmart. [Re: mack_tasticlies]
#5437991 - 03/24/06 11:34 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Banned -- AGAIN -- for flaming. You're building up quite a few demerit points. I suggest you cut it out, as the next ban will be quite lengthy.
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Re: Think about this next time you shop at Walmart. [Re: mack_tasticlies]
#5437997 - 03/24/06 11:36 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah but that's one guys opinion. And opinions are like assholes.
Here's the latest opinion on this:
Humans evolved to be peaceful, cooperative and social animals, not the predators modern mythology would have us believe, says an U.S. anthropologist.
Robert W. Sussman, of Washington University in St. Louis, goes against the prevailing view and argues that primates, including early humans, evolved not as hunters but as prey of many predators, including wild dogs and cats, hyenas, eagles and crocodiles. "Our intelligence, cooperation and many other features we have as modern humans developed from our attempts to out-smart the predator," says Sussman, the author of, "Man the Hunted: Primates, Predators and Human Evolution."
The idea of "Man the Hunter" is the generally accepted paradigm of human evolution, says Sussman.
"It developed from a basic Judeo-Christian ideology of man being inherently evil, aggressive and a natural killer," Sussman told the American Association for the Advancement of Science meeting in St. Louis. "In fact, when you really examine the fossil and living non-human primate evidence, that is just not the case."
http://www.physorg.com/news10987.html
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Re: Think about this next time you shop at Walmart. [Re: Alex213]
#5439237 - 03/24/06 06:38 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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We're animals and animals kill when needed. Whether it's for resources, mates, territory, etc. Except it seems that humans are the first to actually kill and torture out of enjoyment. I am proud to be a human.
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Re: Think about this next time you shop at Walmart. [Re: downforpot]
#5440413 - 03/25/06 07:41 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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im a little annoyed that this wasnt directly related to walmart. after reading about 4-5 paragraphs, i finally realized (stupid me) that you were trying to tie a link between Wal-Mart, and these horrible actions, because both involve China.
What a poor stretch, this story is specific enough I don't see any reason why you would change the focus of it, with the title of this thread. I think thats exactly what made this entire thread into a free-for all discussion about torture, capitalism, wal-mart, and the origins of mankind and the hunter/gatherer evolutionary timeframe.
aside from that, you should be just as angry at american people that shop at walmart (because they cant afford to buy elsewhere at 50-100% more), and you should be just as mad at western medicine, which honestly is one of the most brutal practices that has been introduced to mankind (obviously, it has its benefits, when patients are willing).
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