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 Re: Psychedelic Pleasure - Is Sex Obsolete ???  [Re: Cowgold]
#5429334 - 03/22/06 10:16 AM (17 years, 14 days ago) |
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Re: Psychedelic Pleasure - Is Sex Obsolete ??? [Re: MOTH]
#5429359 - 03/22/06 10:27 AM (17 years, 14 days ago) |
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EllemyshShade said:
So the knowledge that all pleasure is temporary and that the world is mostly pain and misery took away my sex drive entirely.
What about the knowledge that all pain/misery is only temporary? 
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Re: Psychedelic Pleasure - Is Sex Obsolete ??? [Re: trendal]
#5429372 - 03/22/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 14 days ago) |
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That's a good point. But that still doesn't give me my sex drive back. 
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Re: Psychedelic Pleasure - Is Sex Obsolete ??? [Re: MOTH]
#5429378 - 03/22/06 10:32 AM (17 years, 14 days ago) |
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What if he tells you that WHILE rubbing your clitoris?
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Re: Psychedelic Pleasure - Is Sex Obsolete ??? [Re: MOTH]
#5429381 - 03/22/06 10:34 AM (17 years, 14 days ago) |
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Ah well, I tried
I actually have very little sex drive, too, though I don't know why mine is so low (being a warm-blooded human male). Sex is absolutely amazing, but for me it's kind of like pot - I love it when I have it...but hardly miss it when I don't.
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Re: Psychedelic Pleasure - Is Sex Obsolete ??? [Re: trendal]
#5429386 - 03/22/06 10:35 AM (17 years, 14 days ago) |
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trendal said:
Sex is absolutely amazing, but for me it's kind of like pot - I love it when I have it...but hardly miss it when I don't.
ditto
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Re: Psychedelic Pleasure - Is Sex Obsolete ??? [Re: trendal]
#5429390 - 03/22/06 10:36 AM (17 years, 14 days ago) |
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That's exactly how Kevin is too, Trendal...so the fact my drive has plummeted has kinda put us on the same page for once.
OMR: Already been done! 
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Re: Psychedelic Pleasure - Is Sex Obsolete ??? [Re: Silversoul]
#5429393 - 03/22/06 10:37 AM (17 years, 14 days ago) |
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Paradigm said:
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trendal said:
Sex is absolutely amazing, but for me it's kind of like pot - I love it when I have it...but hardly miss it when I don't.
ditto
I guess I feel the same...though sometimes I get crankey for it.
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Re: Psychedelic Pleasure - Is Sex Obsolete ??? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#5429402 - 03/22/06 10:40 AM (17 years, 14 days ago) |
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though sometimes I get crankey for it.
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Re: Psychedelic Pleasure - Is Sex Obsolete ??? [Re: Silversoul]
#5429960 - 03/22/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 14 days ago) |
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as a 22 year old, I've definitely noticed a decline in my sex drive. And its definitely hastened in its decline since I started taking psychedelics. But I can't isolate any one factor, since chronologically my sex drive should have peaked a couple years ago. Plus I live with my girlfriend who keeps me fully satisfied 
I think psychedelics demystify sex to a certain extent. To the pot and alcohol-only set, sex is the most intense and ego-dissolving experience they ever get. So it can become an obsession. Whereas to the psychedelic user, its just another amazing facet of life.
I also think psychedelics lead to maturity, which in turn leads to diminishing of all desires; the sexual desire is one of them.
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Re: Psychedelic Pleasure - Is Sex Obsolete ??? [Re: Noviseer]
#5430148 - 03/22/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 14 days ago) |
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Great post! Stole the words right out of my....fingers?
I'm perfectly ok if I don't have sex or I do. There's a lot better things to keep my mind occupied with rather then being cranky if I get any or not. Sometimes, the amount of bullshit that accompanies sex, isn't even worth it, in my opinion.
Now, not tripping for an extended period of time.... 
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Re: Psychedelic Pleasure - Is Sex Obsolete ??? [Re: MOTH]
#5431421 - 03/22/06 07:02 PM (17 years, 14 days ago) |
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EllemyshShade said:
I used to have a huge libido, now I have nothing. This is because I realize whatever pleasure I experience during sex is temporary.
Intimacy is different. I do feel more intimate with my partner then ever, just not in a sexual way.
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Noviseer said:
I think psychedelics demystify sex to a certain extent. To the pot and alcohol-only set, sex is the most intense and ego-dissolving experience they ever get. So it can become an obsession. Whereas to the psychedelic user, its just another amazing facet of life.
The awareness of impermanence. Along with observing a deeper aspect of life. I think is exactly the reason sex is 'no big deal' for me. Interesting, because before engaging in pre-longed sessions of meditation and consuming psychedelics I was literally a sex crazy being.
Actually during the first trip I ever had (6+gr) I had passed out and at sometime during experiencing what I thought to be ' my death '. I had the experience of having sex with the entire population of earth simultaneously. Haha - maybe all that sex was soo good I don?t need to go back for a long time.
Anyway, all I am suggesting is that I believe I am much happier not needing it constantly. And for me at least, the pleasure of my own bliss - the psychedelic bliss , can be much more intimate. However, I am by no means and un-intimate person. If anything I have become much more intimate - only there is few people that can match this level of intimacy , so fewer people are attractive to me.
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