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remediator
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pictures no words
#5428532 - 03/22/06 01:37 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Holydiver
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Re: pictures no words [Re: remediator]
#5428696 - 03/22/06 04:34 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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You need to come up with some words, or this gets moved.
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Darkenshroom
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Re: pictures no words [Re: Holydiver]
#5428876 - 03/22/06 07:37 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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My guess is at an attempt of an LC from a premade water with fruit juice added to it.
Does the liquid have an preservatives, why did you choose that particular liquid, c'mon man, ye got to be able to better 'an that! (Attempting to type an accent is difficult at best lol)
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Darkenshroom
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Ok after reading your other thread I have got the idea you have in mind now.
That liquid was chosen for it's sugar ratio of just over 2%, this is being done in conjunction with the efforts at NOLA for BioRemediation. Am I correct? I'm assuming the main reason said liquid was picked is availability.
My first concern would be the presence of heavy preservatives. If none are present and that is say, organic product or something similarly clean I would not see why not so long as you were sanitary in using it. Of course I am far from an expert.
Also I'll give ya a hand and link the threads for you then its not cross posting by you, just me being helpful ^_^
For more information on what Remediator is attempting and why please look to this thread about the attempt to use mushrooms to cleanse the gretaer New Orleans area. Attempts at BioRemediation in New Orleans
Darken *smiles*
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Edited by Darkenshroom (03/22/06 07:59 AM)
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remediator
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Re: pictures no words [Re: remediator]
#5429617 - 03/22/06 11:46 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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I didn't realize the rules strictly forbade posts with no text... ???
But anyway.
For those who can see it, the concept is simply that one could feasibly order a syringe, inject a peach water to create LC (using airport method), then go from the peach water straight to the pre-packed, pre-cooked rice - without any kind of sterilization whatsoever.
I've been mulling this over for two weeks and it's driving me crazy. That actual product, the Tony Chachere's rice, i think may have been discontinued, as i can't find any references to it online. I did find other products that would be suitable, but only one photo represented a package with a clear window for viewing.
I think that conceptually the idea is quite profound, and i will be attempting to make it a reality very shortly. The implications are far-reaching. I'm thinking of people who will never learn sterile technique. People who will never be able to afford a Pressure Cooker, much less a Flow Hood. This provides an avenue for creating grain spawn without those pieces of equipment.
Does anyone but Hippie share my excitement in this? Am i over-zealous, is there some logic issue that makes this NOT THE COOLEST FUCKING THING OUT? oh check these... from here:
http://www.thaibetterfoods.com/product_eat.html#n
Just brainstorming, guys. Of course i could have just waited until i had done it, and put up a log/tek... but I'm impatient.
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Re: pictures no words [Re: remediator]
#5429640 - 03/22/06 11:53 AM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
remediator said: I didn't realize the rules strictly forbade posts with no text... ???
This is a discussion forum, so of course you need text to discuss a topic. Most of the folks here have been around too long to play guessing games so getting right to the point is what we had in mind.
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Teon
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Re: pictures no words [Re: Wronguy]
#5430216 - 03/22/06 02:24 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sterilization is just part of the game.
If you can find a way around it that's reasonably reliable I'm sure you could become the hero of plenty of broke-ass 14 year old kids, but who in the world would want that on their conscience?
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Re: pictures no words *DELETED* [Re: Wronguy]
#5432852 - 03/23/06 01:48 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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CaptainKirk

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ive used this idea before..i saw Hippie post it awhile back..never got great growth ,but it requires no work...
shitty pics ,but you can see a bit of myc...all in all i will stick with old fashioned LC's
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Hippie3
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i got decent growth but rather slow. still made about 25 syringes of mexA for a couple bucks working in open air.
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Re: pictures no words [Re: Hippie3]
#5434146 - 03/23/06 11:45 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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I knocked up some packaged noodle and rice with spores. I puffed up the bags so they have fresh air with a sterile hand pump I made.

If you use an airport you simply pull the bag apart and air will be drawn in. All the noodle bag grew was green mould. No signs of growth in the rice bag yet, about 2 weeks on.
Preservatives may be the down side, and processed sugars. I was thinking of a 3 litre bottle of spring water. Silicone the side and put a needle in and squirt out 1 litre. Pull out the needle and the vacuum will remain. Now get a carton or plastic bottle of natural apple juice, a tetra pack has perforated holes for a needle. With a 60ml syringe it would take 16 injections to fill the bottle with 1 litre of apple juice, resulting in 3 litres of appox 4% sugar solution.
You may be able to connect 2 syringes, or 2 needles and pass one into the juice, one in the water and pull the water back into place while squeezeing the juice to transfer the liquid across.
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Quote:
Darkenshroom said: My guess is at an attempt of an LC from a premade water with fruit juice added to it.
Does the liquid have an preservatives, why did you choose that particular liquid, c'mon man, ye got to be able to better 'an that! (Attempting to type an accent is difficult at best lol)
Darken *smiles*
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Re: pictures no words [Re: Psychoslut]
#5435319 - 03/23/06 05:38 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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I like the idea of using prepack sugar water for LCs, although I haven't tried it myself, since making and sterilizing nutrient solutions is simple enough already (I've seen a few teks just using microwave or repeat boiling, too, so a PC isn't even necessary anyway). But it's good to know that can work, and I can see how helpful it could be to somebody who's already a little overwhelmed with all the other stages of cultivation. Or for mycologists on the move.
It would definitely be sweet to find a prepack grain substrate that was usable as is - but what with salt, preservatives, moisture regulation, etc., I doubt that any would be better than passable... and in the end I think it could turn out much more expensive than using cheap bulk grains. Maybe cheaper than buying sterilized substrates from online vendors, though...
But pressure cookers can be found cheap (in the US at least), especially if you're lucky enough to run into one at a thrift shop. It is exciting to see ways to get around their use, though. I know a couple people reported success in no-PC preparation of popcorn jars in recent threads over at mycotopia. And there's always PF-style cakes. Overall it seems to me more useful to work on techniques that aren't dependent on e.g. a specific brand of soft drink (I'm sure there are others that work too, though) or boil-in-bag rice or whatever.
But it would be cool to put together a tek that anybody can do in an hour using only two syringes, some silicone, and a basket of groceries. Making it as easy to have *some* success as, say, making bean sprouts... would probably incite more people to get into more complicated and effective methods...
Good luck, keep us posted.
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