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OfflineJack_Handy
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BRF substitute
    #542833 - 02/06/02 08:21 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I am trying to use the PFtek, but my local heathfood store does not carry brown rice flour. I instead bought "Organic Whole Wheat Flour".

Can I use this as a substitute? or is there something else which they are more likely carry that i can get?

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Re: BRF substitute [Re: Jack_Handy]
    #542836 - 02/06/02 08:26 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I dont think that will work.

Try getting some brown rice, and putting it in a coffee grinder :/


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Re: BRF substitute [Re: Jack_Handy]
    #542840 - 02/06/02 08:32 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I have read a lot of teks and I have never seen any using wheat flour. I wonder if it has enough nutrition. I have seen people use wheat straw though


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Re: BRF substitute [Re: barry_manilow]
    #542860 - 02/06/02 08:59 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

When I do the PF Tek, I use this recipe with great results...

1 part rice flour
1 part organic shredded wheat (thrown into a blender until it is powder).
and then the vermiculite.

I have had cakes that fully colonize with no problems. One thing I did do was to add the water to the vermiculite before I added the rice flour and my home made organic wheat flour. I say, give it a try. I think you will be pleased with the results. I get more flushes off of individual cakes this way. True, I havent found any information ANYWHERE indorsing this method. Maybe its a new one never tried before!? Well, yes... it works just fine.


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Re: BRF substitute [Re: UrbanistiC]
    #542864 - 02/06/02 09:00 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

This idea is from: AN165023@anon.penet.fi

Rather than use brown rice flour available at a health food store, you can grind your own from long grain brown rice. Simply put the dried rice into a coffee grinder or a blender and let it chew the rice into a chunky flour. You will need to increase the water from 1/4 cup per 1/2 pint jar by 1 and 1/2 tablespoons. The chunky home ground flour absorbs a little more water than the normal flour.

Advantage:
Cost is one benefit, but that is not the reason this adaptation is useful. Using home ground flour will speed the colonization of the substrate. It has been reported that a 1/2 pint jar can be 100% colonized in 11 days if fresh spores are used and the jar is kept at 85 degrees F. during colonization. Note that this is the current record, and most jars will take a bit longer, but overall, the colonization time period is reduced.

Also, the home made brown rice flour seems to yield much more consistently and produce slightly more mushrooms per cake than store bought flour.

Disadvantages:
Extra effort.

(thought I would stick this here for ya guys, too)


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