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GabbaDj
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Pay With Your Fingerprint.
#5428281 - 03/21/06 11:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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https://www.jewelosco.com/eCommerceWeb/SaveAction.do?action=beginPBT&target=showPBTPage
Things have just gone too far now.. I would have though a slower introduction of fingerprint scanning but the big debut is in the grocery stores.
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DieCommie

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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5428896 - 03/22/06 07:48 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Offering more choices to the consumer is "things going too far"?
You do realize that it is completely voluntary right?
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5429177 - 03/22/06 09:22 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is awesome. I want to do it.
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GabbaDj
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: DieCommie]
#5429437 - 03/22/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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You do realize that it is completely voluntary right?
For now.
Just wait till everything is monitored by electronic tracking and your fingerprint is your only form of ID.
Wake up, go get breakfast. A computer records your order and saves it. Get on the freeway and electronic toll devices and Navstar tracking watches your speed and rout you take to work, maby even listens in on your conversations with passengers.
At work you log on and do some business as well as take care of some personal stuff while all your transactions are recorded for "security and marketing reasons".
Lunch time. Its easy to tell what your having because your grocery transactions have been recorded the previous day. The file is kept and used to monitor your general health and marketability of certian products.
Work is over and the toll tag shows youve left early but navstar says you arrived home 20 minutes late? Maby you were having an affair? Maby you stoped for gass? no your finger print would confirm that? Well what is it then? GPS tracking and Toll Tags are currently admissable in divorce and custody battles and soon enough your personal buying habbits may be used to determine if you drink too much or stock your shelves with not enough fruits and vegetables for your kids.
Truth is that you stoped at Home Depot to pick up some things for relandscaping your yard and your home depot file gets added to your general file which makes its way to your Homeowners Union who decide to fine you $1000 for chabging the bushes in your front yard without asking. (true story)
While at home, watching cable your file shows that you will have steak and potatoes tonight with 2 a glass of red wine, and 4 beers which is concitered too much alcohol comsumption so your file grows a little red flag that gets noticed by your medical insurer and your premiums get raised or cancled because you are "living an unhealthy lifestyle".
We are being watched from the time we get up till the time we go to bed as well as while were sleeping. Files are being created on everyone and private companies are under no obligation to keep those files confidential. Even if they say they wont, in many ways they do.
These files can be purchaced, consolidated and resold to your medical/home insurer, your employeer, advertising groups, lawyers and all can be legaly used against you.
The more information we provide about our lives the more we will be judged and the ethics police will soon be pounding on your door for looking at Scat in OTD.
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5429452 - 03/22/06 11:02 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I lost my hands in a freak construction accident. Am I fucked?
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: daimyo]
#5429457 - 03/22/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Retinal Scans can also be used..
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daimyo
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: Rono]
#5429483 - 03/22/06 11:11 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cataracts...
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: daimyo]
#5429505 - 03/22/06 11:17 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Voice recognition
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: Rono]
#5429512 - 03/22/06 11:18 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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DieCommie

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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5429564 - 03/22/06 11:33 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Edited by DieCommie (11/11/16 09:53 AM)
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5429567 - 03/22/06 11:34 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I lost my hands in a meat-cutting accident. I'll never trust ads from the back of Fifties men's magazines again.

Phred
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5429759 - 03/22/06 12:28 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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I lost my hands, eyes, and vocal chords in an unusual gardening accident. I guess I would be shot?
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: AaronEvil]
#5429775 - 03/22/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Your ability to blindly mash away at a keyboard using only your toes, with no spelling mistakes is an inspiration to us all...
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: Rono]
#5430367 - 03/22/06 03:01 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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He does it with his tongue. That's why the ladies love him so much.
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5430399 - 03/22/06 03:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sounds good to me. That's less crap I have to keep in my wallet.
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GabbaDj
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: DieCommie]
#5430474 - 03/22/06 03:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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now thats a slippery slope fallacy if i have ever seen one. None of that stuff is going to happen as a result of a store allowing you to pay with a finger print ID vs. a card or cash.
EVERYTHING in their is an example of something thats already happened to people. Popular Mechanics had an great artical on this a year ago.
People are being tracked and watched and information is being gathered and filed at every angle. Is it too hard to believe that your personal information such as places you visit, shopping habits and what you do during the course of your normal day may be of interest to people who make money off your well being.
Right now employeers have the ability to use your personal medical records and credit history for or against you to determine employment. If youve got a major medical condition it will become harder and harder for you to find a job with a good medical plan.
Wake up people, try searching for yourself online and see just what you can come up with. I can get just about everything anyone would want to know about me and once more information becomes available, Im sure anyone else could get that information also.
Doubt that it could ever happen? It already has.
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Edited by GabbaDj (03/22/06 03:28 PM)
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5430560 - 03/22/06 03:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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If this is already happening, why not use the fingerprint thing?
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DieCommie

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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5430572 - 03/22/06 03:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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GabbaDj said:Doubt that it could ever happen? It already has.
I didnt say it could/would never happen. Im just saying it has nothing to do with the article you posted or the store Jewel-Osco.
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Redstorm said: If this is already happening, why not use the fingerprint thing?
Good Point!
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: DieCommie]
#5430729 - 03/22/06 04:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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what about dental mapping. Can you imagine sharing a dental plate with some of the nasties that buy liquor at the same liquor store as you?
me shudders.
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Cosmic_Dragon
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hmmmm...what im worried about is who is really lookin at all that info....then all of a sudden, the "government" has everyone's fingerprints and they OWN you!!...haha...introducing it...slowly it become more popular until everyones using it and then...BAM....
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5434198 - 03/23/06 12:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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anyone ever read any william gibson?
in most of his books (scifi set in the near future) cash is illegal.
wonder if that would ever happen, and if it did, would it eliminate the black (free) market?
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downforpot
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: DoctorJ]
#5436608 - 03/23/06 11:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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we're already monitored. What are you worrying about?
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: Cosmic_Dragon]
#5437934 - 03/24/06 11:15 AM (17 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cosmic_Dragon said: hmmmm...what im worried about is who is really lookin at all that info....then all of a sudden, the "government" has everyone's fingerprints and they OWN you!!...haha...introducing it...slowly it become more popular until everyones using it and then...BAM....
what about havong to put your finger print on checks you want cashed. I have to, plus my shit is allready in the fbi database, fuckers got em off me for trespassing, in walmart, that I had never been kicked out off.
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GabbaDj
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: DieCommie]
#5462896 - 03/31/06 06:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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DieCommie said: now thats a slippery slope fallacy if i have ever seen one. None of that stuff is going to happen as a result of a store allowing you to pay with a finger print ID vs. a card or cash.
Why not? Why wouldn't government monitor your your what you buy to see if you are doing something illegal, like growing pot or mushrooms or synthesizing meth in your cellar?
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DoctorJ said: anyone ever read any william gibson?
in most of his books (scifi set in the near future) cash is illegal.
wonder if that would ever happen, and if it did, would it eliminate the black (free) market?
If cash became illegal we would start paying for our drugs and guns with gold, i think. a quick trip to the jewelry 24/7 to buy your standard-priced jewels wouldn't take that long
Edited by cloned (03/31/06 06:52 AM)
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DieCommie

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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: cloned]
#5463606 - 03/31/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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cloned said:
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DieCommie said: now thats a slippery slope fallacy if i have ever seen one. None of that stuff is going to happen as a result of a store allowing you to pay with a finger print ID vs. a card or cash.
Why not? Why wouldn't government monitor your your what you buy to see if you are doing something illegal, like growing pot or mushrooms or synthesizing meth in your cellar?
Because A)use of the fingerprint is voluntary. and B) Its is a private company who will have your information, not the govt. and C) The govt can already track what you buy using credit cards or checks, so nothing has really changed since credit cards and checks are used all the time.
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GabbaDj
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: DieCommie]
#5465318 - 03/31/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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B. Thats whats wrong.. Its illigal for the government to gather certain information on people. Its also illigal for the government to use information against you.
Private companies have no rules or obligations against shareing your information. And they do. Mostly for marketing reasons but just imagine who wants your information and the path were on.
Im not too worried about the government spying on me. I dont think they are compitent enough to develope a system and get it to work so that they could. Im more worried about what BIG business could do with personal information. We could have a "personal" score on us. Much like a credit score, your personal score tells employeers, insurrers, creditors, business people and anyone else who wants to know things like your shopping habbits and travle paterns.
One recent example is how Auto Insurance companies have been using public and private records to raise rates for people living in urban areas. BIG lawsuit because they found that people living say in Downtown L.A. pay an average 40% more than say people living in Beverly Hills.
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DieCommie

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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5465345 - 03/31/06 08:02 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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But you can still pay with cash, or not visit the store at all. How is a fingerprint going to enable the "BIG business" to do any more harm to you than a credit card? Both are just linked to your private information, and each could be tracked to know shopping habits. Am I missing the big point? Clue me in.
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: DieCommie]
#5465509 - 03/31/06 08:51 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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DieCommie said: But you can still pay with cash, or not visit the store at all. How is a fingerprint going to enable the "BIG business" to do any more harm to you than a credit card? Both are just linked to your private information, and each could be tracked to know shopping habits. Am I missing the big point? Clue me in.
Because credit card companies have anti disclosure laws. Plus banks that are fedarally insured have anti disclosure laws. It all started with Club Cards.
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Re: Pay With Your Fingerprint. [Re: GabbaDj]
#5468590 - 04/01/06 06:54 PM (17 years, 9 months ago) |
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So we can look up this woman's ass, but don't ask for her fingerprints.
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