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Old man of the manure?
    #5426767 - 03/21/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Good evening. During the last couple of days, there has been a small growth period because of the spotty rains. I discovered all of the specimens below in horse manure. However, I am most intrigued by the rather scaly mushrooms shown below. The caps are about 1.5 inches across, shiny silver/brown, quite scaly as you can see, and possessing of a black spore print. I haven't seen anything quite like them before...









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Re: Old man of the manure? [Re: WordlessNature]
    #5426986 - 03/21/06 07:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

looks like a shrivled inactive panaleous species, but heck i have no idea


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Re: Old man of the manure? [Re: WordlessNature]
    #5427150 - 03/21/06 07:58 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Those appear to be Coprinus quadrifidus "the scaly inky"
I'm thinking the ones across the very top are Stropharia semiglobata (just a guess) and the ones to the right, I thought they were cubes until I opened the pic. very interesting, can you give more information on those?
Were all of these mushrooms growing straight from dung?
An Agrocybe maybe?


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Re: Old man of the manure? [Re: WordlessNature]
    #5427819 - 03/21/06 10:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

wheres the old shaggy man?


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Re: Old man of the manure? [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5428134 - 03/21/06 11:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Hmmm... They weren't shriveled panaeolus; the entire patch held that appearance, even the younger caps. Moreover, the caps are scaled, not at all shriveled, and the stems are healthy. Definitely not a scaly coprinus. The stems are not white, nor are they hollow. The inside of the stem is rather woody. In fact, the color is a reddish brown, further resembling wood. Here are a couple more shots of others in the group. The young caps (group of 3 in first pic) bruise purple... Rather pretty.





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Re: Old man of the manure? [Re: WordlessNature]
    #5428638 - 03/22/06 02:46 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Still no luck... Strange mushrooms.


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Re: Old man of the manure? [Re: WordlessNature]
    #5429102 - 03/22/06 08:59 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The scaly looking specimens I would describe as areolate, meaning cracked (like a mud flat). In your first photo, the brown specimen near lower center is showing the cracking of the cap surface on the right side.

Cap surfaces often do this because they have a cellular cuticle (Panaeolus has a cellular cuticle) and they dry out. Your specimens may be unusual because of environmental factors. Recently we have had severe drought here in Colorado. During the worst years many of the mushrooms I found would be unidentifiable because they were so distorted from environmental effects (drying out).

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Re: Old man of the manure? [Re: ToxicMan]
    #5429752 - 03/22/06 12:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Think they are a panaeolus species, then? Hmm... I found the gold on the caps to be very intriguing. Maybe a by-product of the drying? The only objection I have to the theory is that it has been inordinately wet here as of late, and the caps almost definitely appeared after the first rains began. That being the case, how could the appearance of the caps be a result of over drying??


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Re: Old man of the manure? [Re: WordlessNature]
    #5430146 - 03/22/06 02:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Conceivably, if the rain had ceased, they could acquire that appearance fairly quickly. All it takes is a bit of sunlight and or wind? relative humidity is a key factor as well.
I wouldn?t venture a guess as to species but the genera surely is Panaeolus.
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Re: Old man of the manure? [Re: WordlessNature]
    #5430161 - 03/22/06 02:10 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Not necessarily over drying - just a period of dryness after they start to grow can cause them to crack excessively. It can even be a result of microclimate at the particular location they were growing.

The other obvious possible genus for those is Coprinus. Try cutting one in half vertically to verify if the gills are attached to the stem or not. Panaeolus have attached gills and Coprinus have free gills.

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Re: Old man of the manure? [Re: ToxicMan]
    #5433061 - 03/23/06 05:55 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry dude, better luck next time all you have there is nada-como-kada! lol


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