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Offlinedegeneratemo
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Shaking and flipping out and stuff like that
    #542623 - 02/06/02 02:32 PM (22 years, 24 days ago)

Ok, I have another question for you people:
Often when I'm on shrooms I start shaking (sometimes cause I'm nervous or sometimes when I'm cold), so I try everything to warm up and stop shaking, but then since I'm trying not to, I shake more, and sometimes it sends me into a bad trip... it really sucks cause it makes me nervous to do shrooms, and I really don't wanna be, so if anyone has any suggestions, please do share. Thanks!

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Re: Shaking and flipping out and stuff like that [Re: degeneratemo]
    #542634 - 02/06/02 02:43 PM (22 years, 24 days ago)

often I get really cold (on E as well) and shake, but I've noticed on shrooms if the trip isn't goin all that well my hand tends to shake like it's a vibrator or something, it's unbelievable how harsh it shakes ... this goes away by the time the trip starts turnin good ... if it does ...

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Re: Shaking and flipping out and stuff like that [Re: degeneratemo]
    #542707 - 02/06/02 04:03 PM (22 years, 24 days ago)

That happens to me all the time.. while Im coming up I feel really uneasy, start feeling cold, kinda nervous shaky.. but I read or heard somewhere that this is supposed to happen (it may have been bullshit) So because I think this is supposed to happen it doesnt bother me... while I'm peaking it goes away and its smooth sailing from there.. I would just try and not worry about it.


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    #542764 - 02/06/02 05:05 PM (22 years, 24 days ago)

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Re: Shaking and flipping out and stuff like that [Re: degeneratemo]
    #542788 - 02/06/02 05:30 PM (22 years, 24 days ago)

Getting cold and shakey as the trip is coming up always happens to my friend on both shrooms and mdma (x). My friend is able to use the amount of shaking and quickness of onset as an indicator for how strong the trip is going to be and how quick it is going to hit. Turn the tables on your karma. Instead of getting nervous, use the knowledge to calm yourself... everything is on the proper path and working as advertised. My friend keeps a blanket nearby to help get through the cold. Once the trip gets going the shakes and the coldness seem to go away.


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Re: Shaking and flipping out and stuff like that [Re: degeneratemo]
    #542809 - 02/06/02 05:49 PM (22 years, 24 days ago)

it seems to me that anxiety is, sometimes, just strangled exuberance. let your feelings run their course and explore all aspects of your emotions.

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Re: Shaking and flipping out and stuff like that [Re: degeneratemo]
    #542837 - 02/06/02 06:26 PM (22 years, 24 days ago)

If you shake because you're freezing (or feel like it) a blanket helps alot. If the temperature around you is fine & you wrap that blankie around you be prepared for a stronger trip because of higher bodytemperature.

If you're getting hot, really hot, let the Sitter (who anyone who values safety & comfort/guidance in times of need always has around when they Trip.) check your temp. Since slight fever is to be expected & perfectly harmless he can check by touch for really high fever.An earthermometer can be handy and quikly reassuring, aside from more appropriate than a glass tube up your butt. The thing to watch for here is the (rare) HYPERTHERMIA, which kill. (on the higher end of low risk: MDMA, MDEA etc.) That calls for icecold wet blankets & your Sitter knowing what to do.

But back to the shaking... Nervousness and Anxiety are the #1 culprits. People often forget that a (strong) Psychedelic experience is a stressfull impulse, more so than a marriage or the subsequent divorce. It even has such impact that early researchers mistakingly identified it as psychosis, the strongest of all stresses.
Almost all of the aches & pains people complain about after munching shrooms are psychosomatic in origin (exept some stomach discomfort) and most are caused by you adjusting to a radically different world, both inside as out. This shaking can diminish any time, for some it gets worse and most veterans seem to keep some degree of anxiety. Hey: we're only human!


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Re: Shaking and flipping out and stuff like that [Re: HB]
    #542842 - 02/06/02 06:34 PM (22 years, 24 days ago)

One time I took off my clothes on mushrooms, and started twitching and shaking around :smile:

It is more on high doses, but nothing to worry about.  I mean that is probably what causes it, or makes it worse, is worrying about it.  Next time, merge with all your bodily symptoms.   

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Re: Shaking and flipping out and stuff like that [Re: degeneratemo]
    #543369 - 02/07/02 06:20 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

I find that there are two types of shaking one is because of temperature (shivering), and another one that I get ones in a wile is energetic, is like the energy wants to flow but is blocked in some parts of my body, after this vigorous shaking is done I feel very good. Actualy it feels good when I am shaking also.


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Re: Shaking and flipping out and stuff like that [Re: degeneratemo]
    #543452 - 02/07/02 08:17 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

I hope we get some real knowledge on this post... I've experienced the same thing. I don't know, but I am wondering if it has to do with serotonin levels. I recently did shrooms and kept "getting a bite" like with ecstacy. The jawl clenching lasted for days, as did depression, and anxiety. I tripped totally out and wondered if I had a seizure or like a "melt". I was shaking like crazy but was so hot I crawled to the shower...

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Re: Shaking and flipping out and stuff like that [Re: Roger_irrelevant]
    #543652 - 02/07/02 11:52 AM (22 years, 23 days ago)

It's normal, when i take mushrooms i'm always nervous also after drinking the tea i get the shakes and i get really tense it's pretty uncomfortable, i also at times have chattery teeth ... when the real tripping sets in it gets more comfortable and relax !

My friends have this too.

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Re: Shaking and flipping out and stuff like that [Re: degeneratemo]
    #543721 - 02/07/02 12:59 PM (22 years, 23 days ago)

I ALWAYS shake, like shivering, when I'm coming up on shrooms (usually for the first 30 minutes after I drop). I feel extremely cold so I shiver, but I am usually not anything close to cold if I get someone to touch me.


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Re: Shaking and flipping out and stuff like that [Re: trendal]
    #543892 - 02/07/02 03:37 PM (22 years, 23 days ago)

Thanks alot for everyones comments and such, it's really a relief to hear that it's normal, cause my friends never seemed to have this problem, so I figured there was something wrong, which really didn't help.

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Re: Shaking and flipping out and stuff like that [Re: degeneratemo]
    #543955 - 02/07/02 04:37 PM (22 years, 23 days ago)

I think it's better to take the dose in a spaced time between 20 to 40 minutes, depending on the the dose.
Slow onset is better IMO.

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Re: Shaking and flipping out and stuff like that [Re: degeneratemo]
    #544468 - 02/08/02 01:43 AM (22 years, 22 days ago)

Usually after ingestion, I find it best to maybe take a few bong hits, if thats your thing. This sets a relaxing tone. Then, I got into a meditation session for about 20 minutes, which helps clear your mind and is very relaxing. By the time you reach the level of relaxation, the shrooms will most likely be kickin in. This is also another good excuse to pack up the bong again. =]


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Re: Shaking and flipping out and stuff like that [Re: degeneratemo]
    #544823 - 02/08/02 12:21 PM (22 years, 22 days ago)

yeah i agree with grimble...... pack up the binger get nice and high, and you should have a pretty good transition from the weed to the boomers. shaking is fairly common though. the first time i did shrooms my friend who i was with (also his first time) had a bad trip (he just doesnt do well with hallucinagens). we were driving through cape cod on a ninety degree day and he was in a hoodie with a blanket wrapped around him. the worst that happens to me is jaw clenching, but i have that problem fairly often caused by stress or drugs or whatever....

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Re: Shaking and flipping out and stuff like that [Re: Squirtle]
    #545645 - 02/09/02 08:56 AM (22 years, 21 days ago)

Ever had the "shakes" and jaw clenching last for a week?

At the time I am posting---I have been shakeing twitching and had jaw clenching for an entire week. I'm also getting mini-flashbacks of the trip and for a couple of seconds will see objects start to morph or run... freaky electric colors... or flat objects will suddenly jump up at me in 3-D...

...yes, it was SOME TRIP... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I kind of feel like the charaters in the movies "Flatliners"---where they died and then are brought back to life---but they bring back something with them..


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Re: Shaking and flipping out and stuff like that [Re: LOBO]
    #547401 - 02/11/02 01:49 AM (22 years, 19 days ago)

I find that when I am on any type of hallucinogen I tend to vibrate my extremities, hands, feet, toes and fingers. It was uncontrolled at first, and a stronger dose would provide more forceful movements.
I have since channeled this natural enthusiam into music, tapping along, playing keyboards or doing hand percussion.
It feels right and relieves me of the fidgets..


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